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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Sig View Post
    Obviously, you are a cerebral eunuch in this area. Why do you bother to post about a subject which you know nothing about?

    For starters:

    Gun culture - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Thank you. That article completely supports my point.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Old west tales? I can take you a few old saloons here in Arizona and show you bullet holes in the ceiling. I'm thinking you haven't read a great deal about the old west.

    Growing up in Georgia I carried snake loads in the summer to keep the cotton mouths and such from coming up from the creek toward the house.

    Ever have a favorite saw or drill or hammer? Most of us have and do. In fact, you likely know the different between a framing hammer and a tack hammer and why you need several different kinds of hammers, if you like to do manual labor on your house and land. I swear some framing hammers are better than others. I have my favorite. I even have a brass framed folding yard stick. I don't know how old that thing is. I marvel at it from time to time when I rediscover it in a drawer on my work bench. You don't see craftsmanship like that these days. They are all tools.

    Guns are tools and have been tools in America since whenever they brought guns over. I can recall when I was finally given permission by my father to shoot a .308. It was a big thrill. It was a huge thrill the first time I fam fired a .50 cal. I called home that night and told my dad I had fired a .50! Later, I qualified with a .50 cal. It was a moment I remember, not to mention being a hell of a lot of fun. It was another tool I had learned to use.

    In many ways, in the US, learning to shoot has been a right of passing for young men. If it wasn't within your experience I am truly sorry you missed it.
    I have been to AR. My uncle, who was in the European theater became a histroy teacher after the war, and before his credentials he worked in a little gas station in e. TX that was knocked over by Bonnie & Clyde. The west never had "draws in the street". Guys walked behind their enemies and sho 'em in the head. The murder rate in some of the towns and mining settlements would make moder day Oakland blush.

    My family is from the south; the foothills of the Smokies. I was firing guns at a very early age and learned what they were, how to use them and what they were for. I vividly remember my father walking into a gun store, buying a rifle off the rack, and out we walked: no waiting period. That was unheard of. The local drug stroed used to give away a shot gun shell with every purchase to be used against those damned black birds that woud ruin the corn! In high school I was on a rifel team, and I own three firearms myself.

    You are quite right: a gun is a tool: that's all it is. (Of course it has its collectable qualities too, but that's another thread). A firearm is not a threat, but it can be used as one. It can be protection when needed, and like a fishing pole, used for food when necessary. But this notion that the US is some sort of gun culture is just ridiculous in my view. I think that there are plenty of politicos who live in a gun culture; a very dangerous culture in this country: one of the immature responses like an amoeba most of the time. A culture inhabited by ex-military or wanna be tough guys that continue to embarass this country, but to say that the US is a gun culture is so far off the mark in my view, that it truly short siights this entire country. The leftists say stuff like that. The right-wing of course wears pistols on their hips becasue they want to go outside with no underwear on hopin gthat the ladies will cream their jeans at how tough those guys are: it's just stupid.

    Own your gun, know what it is, learn how to use it, keep it clean and stop braggin' about it. John Wayne would be ashamed.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You would not be a match if your were capable of lighting an entire pack of cigarettes.


    actually on this topic you are pretty much getting pwned

    why don't you explain your support of the second amendment and how picturing slain victims of mass murderers as "MARTYRS OF THE SECOND AMENDMENT" shows support of the constitutional right

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    That isn't the problem. There were always nut jobs. People will blame the Columbine shootings on Grand Theft Auto, but as it turns out, one of the kids was a clinical psychopath (meaning he was effectively incapable of true moral thinking) and the other kid was very psychologically weak.

    The media tends to blame things like this on whatever they can, but people are people, and will always kill other people.
    I agree here. I think much of this is media coverage, longer news cycles mean more time to fill and the bad stuff is more compelling. That said there is room for parents to step in and explain the basics of life to their kids, entertainment isn't the problem unless it's the only influence children have. As far as the psychopathy goes, I feel for people afflicted, but if those around them think they are a danger to themselves or others they must get that person help.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Thank you. That article completely supports my point.
    Actually, it does not. You're point is that is that it is America's gun culture which is primarily responsible for incidents such as the one at hand.

    You are dead wrong.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Okay, we went to see The Dark Knight Rises and made it back alive.


    It was pretty good. About 3 hours long though.... could've cut 30 min without harming the story line a bit.


    Saw trailers for The Hobbit, Expendables II, and some other things that looked pretty good.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kane View Post
    I think commentators should wait another week or two before everyone starts politicizing this tragedy.
    Me too, Kane.

    Here are a few things I'd like to know, and I think they are important:

    What weapon was used to kill which people, located where? Gruesome? God, yes, but important to know.

    What loads were used?

    How many rounds were fired from each gun?

    These are just a few questions that are important and actually matter in the way the carnage is accessed. I can see where the media - often knowing little about guns - will whip the public into a frenzy regarding, say, the AR-15. In truth, the argument can be made and has been made, that with .223 defensive loads, they are perhaps better for home defense than a pistol, less likely to penetrate walls and outside walls. At the same time, it's damn difficult to conceal carry a AR-15. But I can just see the media frenzy regarding "assault weapons". Unfortunately broadcast media is NOT at all a thinking persons information source. It is, however, the "news" source for much of America.

    The above is simply one example.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Well - threads like this are very self-serving aren't they?

    I mean give people a chance to grieve, why don't you?

    Honestly.

    Mods - please stick this crap in a forum of its own ... and spare us the bad taste these threads display.

    Scoring political points on this tragedy is such bad form, at a bad time, and shows bad judgement.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Okay, we went to see The Dark Knight Rises and made it back alive.


    It was pretty good. About 3 hours long though.... could've cut 30 min without harming the story line a bit.


    Saw trailers for The Hobbit, Expendables II, and some other things that looked pretty good.

    Pleasant evening.
    Three hours in a cool dark theater is nap time to me. Too long.

    Glad you and son enjoyed it.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Okay, we went to see The Dark Knight Rises and made it back alive.


    It was pretty good. About 3 hours long though.... could've cut 30 min without harming the story line a bit.


    Saw trailers for The Hobbit, Expendables II, and some other things that looked pretty good.

    Pleasant evening.
    Glad ya made it. How was Morgan Freeman?
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