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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I have never advocating banning guns. But lets take your premise and extrapolate it.......Explain how your theory works in Japan?
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mya View Post
    James Holmes jailed in solitary: ‘All the inmates were talking about killing him’

    'He was spitting at the door and spitting at the guards,' a just-released inmate told the Daily News. 'He's spitting at everything. Dude was acting crazy.'

    Aurora shooting suspect James Holmes jailed in solitary:
    which is why he should be in the general prison population. even the worst robber, hit man, narcotics trafficker, ponzi scheme Bernie Madoff wannabe is going to be disgusted with some coward that shoots little kids and unarmed people for fun.

    His punishment will be far far worse than anything an executioner could legally do to him

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You repeatedly and openly and frequently fantasize about murdering other Americans who you disagree with on public policy. That is the definition of EXTREMIST.

    In your world, WINNERS are the silk diaper set who had it handed to them on a silver platter along with a medal for their hard work in reaching out to grab it. We know that Turtle. You have made it very very clear.

    So tell me about your slur against me - how do I create the shooter in Colorado? Make this good counselor. Your falling reputation may hang upon your ability to construct a verifiable case for the first time in your existence here.
    If you were to attend law school, serve as a police officer etc, you might learn what the term MURDER means. Murder means to unlawfully and usually with premeditation, kill another person. Shooting rioters, criminals, or other scum is not MURDER. killing to defend your life or the lives of others is called JUSTIFIABLE homicide



    I have never advocated murdering anyone.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    If you were to attend law school, serve as a police officer etc, you might learn what the term MURDER means. Murder means to unlawfully and usually with premeditation, kill another person. Shooting rioters, criminals, or other scum is not MURDER. killing to defend your life or the lives of others is called JUSTIFIABLE homicide


    yup - that fits your rants to a tee when you talk about killing politicians who raise taxes or would exercise some gun control regulations. Murder plain and simple.

    And that makes you the quintessential extremist. Which is why you are beyond any rational discussion on this issue and only see it as an all or nothing proposition with no middle ground .
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    I mused the point that the shooter was ready to go! and then when the heat showed up, he just stopped and cowered. I think he chickened out: the act of sain man . . .
    active shooters are always cowards. If someone had wounded him-the odds are 15-1 he would have blown his brains out

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    If you think it did not, you are not living in the real America.

    There are none so blind as they who will not see.

    And I agree about changing people who need to be changed. But that is just part of it. The gun culture is also part of it.
    America has had a fascination with guns since its inception. It has NOT had regular experiences with mass murder until the last 50 years. Something has changed in American culture and it is NOT its interest in firearms.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    If you think it did not, you are not living in the real America.

    There are none so blind as they who will not see.

    And I agree about changing people who need to be changed. But that is just part of it. The gun culture is also part of it.
    No its not, its the part of society that excuses failures and tells them other people are to blame

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Sig View Post
    Yes, we have to uproot those influences within our culture which cultivate psyches that are so saturated with narcissism, solipsism, and aggression that they are incapable of experiencing any empathy at all for other human beings. Holmes' actions had absolutely nothing to do with "gun worship" and if you think they did then you have no handle on this issue.
    Excellent point. I sort of see this as though one of the guys from The Big Bang Theory just decided that he wanted to go postal.

    The culture however, in my view, has entirely too many stresses on it. Most of this stuff is; shall I say market driven . . . That is to say the money necessary to live on is getting harder to aquire, everybody is stretched waaaaay too thin, and there appears to be no light at the end of the tunnel. There is a "din in the head" that is too constant and too competitive. The country needs to mature.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Sig View Post
    And if you take away the guns, the James Holmeses of the world will simply use bombs.

    The awful truth is that there is no security against this sort of insanity.
    Indeed, Tim McVeigh, Ted Kaczynski, Ted Bundy, to name a few, were not big gun users. Some will conveniently ignore that, however.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    yup - that fits your rants to a tee when you talk about killing politicians who raise taxes or would exercise some gun control regulations. Murder plain and simple.

    And that makes you the quintessential extremist. Which is why you are beyond any rational discussion on this issue and only see it as an all or nothing proposition with no middle ground .
    wrong as usual. I note that despotic politicians could very well be shot by angry citizens. Example Hughey Long

    politicians who would order police to break down doors to attack citizens for merely owning guns would be justifiable targets. That would be considered patriotism.

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