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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Furiounova View Post
    a rifle. it was claimed a semi automatic rifle could take out a cobra pilot. Yes it is "possible" just like it is possible Scarlet Johanson will knock on my door and ask for help with trying on new bras.
    You don't understand the subject then. First off, you said "semi-auto" which could be any type of firearm, second, most modern bullets are hypersonic while all helicopters are on the low side of sub-sonic. The reason Cobras are dangerous is that they end up in warzones, with known threats and locations, and the less accurate full auto fire. A shooter who is hidden could take out a Cobra pilot at low altitude or when they land. Don't kid yourself.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Furiounova View Post
    You specifically said COBRA pilots and now that you got called out on such a ridiculous claim you want to move the goal posts.
    so Cobra pilots are immune to bullets

    gotcha

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Furiounova View Post
    He was wearing body armor. SBC does not apply.
    Yes, he was wearing body armor, so why did he give up so easy when the cops arrived?

    The way he was armed along with the body armor kinda reminds me of these guys except he wasn't robbing a bank and he didn't have any priors....

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    I think SBC is still a possibility.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Yes, he was wearing body armor, so why did he give up so easy when the cops arrived?

    The way he was armed along with the body armor kinda reminds me of these guys except he wasn't robbing a bank and he didn't have any priors....

    North Hollywood shootout - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    I think SBC is still a possibility.
    From what I understand the plan was to be caught all along, having to do with the Joker scene from the second movie. This is according to reports on the matter so that is obviously up for debate.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Nope. As I said above, assault rifles -- the M-16 and similar -- were designed specifically to wound.
    Can you back up that claim with a link? Otherwise I'm going to have to throw the BS flag.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Yes, he was wearing body armor, so why did he give up so easy when the cops arrived?

    The way he was armed along with the body armor kinda reminds me of these guys except he wasn't robbing a bank and he didn't have any priors....

    North Hollywood shootout - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    I think SBC is still a possibility.
    No. This guy, according to reports, planned on getting caught. He'd asked his friends/acquaintences to start calling him The Joker a few weeks before all this happened. It's my understanding from the report (I never saw the movie) that one of the Batman films had The Joker planning on being captured. That's where he was coming from. The only thing that didn't match was him booby-trapping his apartment.

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Can you back up that claim with a link? Otherwise I'm going to have to throw the BS flag.
    I doubt poster will find one. I think this comes from the idea that if a soldier is "only wounded" it'll take another guy or two out of the fray to take care of him. If he's dead? Just leave him where he falls for the time being. Designed to wound? Nah. I think you're right.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    For anyone who thinks an M-16 was designed to wound.....check out the wound sustained by this guy by an M-16.

    WARNING: EXTREMELY GRAPHIC PHOTO

    Why you do not want to get shot with an M16...(Warning: Disturbing photograph)

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    No. This guy, according to reports, planned on getting caught. He'd asked his friends/acquaintences to start calling him The Joker a few weeks before all this happened. It's my understanding from the report (I never saw the movie) that one of the Batman films had The Joker planning on being captured. That's where he was coming from. The only thing that didn't match was him booby-trapping his apartment.
    I've never seen the series myself so I don't have a frame of reference. It sounds like this psychopath wanted to hurt as many people as possible, he probably gave up on the booby trap idea after capture, but that part doesn't make any sense to me. This is just a horrible story altogether.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    For anyone who thinks an M-16 was designed to wound.....check out the wound sustained by this guy by an M-16.

    WARNING: EXTREMELY GRAPHIC PHOTO

    Why you do not want to get shot with an M16...(Warning: Disturbing photograph)
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    For anyone who thinks an M-16 was designed to wound.....check out the wound sustained by this guy by an M-16.

    WARNING: EXTREMELY GRAPHIC PHOTO

    Why you do not want to get shot with an M16...(Warning: Disturbing photograph)
    Here's the thing. Even a varmint gun can inflict a nasty wound on a human being, it depends on lots of things coming together: Entry angle, proximity, richochet, etc.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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