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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Furiounova View Post
    I'm not talking about different types of guns. I'm talking about guns. They were designed with one purpose: to kill. Would it help if I said they were invented to kill?
    And you are wrong, as has been pointed out by at least four posters. "Guns are designed to kill" is worse than a generalization, it's an outright fallacy, every single firearm is designed to fire a projectile and that's it, rifles, handguns, assault rifles, full-autos, handguns, shotguns, etc. are all designed to specifically influence the flight trajectory, entrance/exit points, and other ballistic capabilities of the projectile. Not only are the TYPES different but within the TYPES different models have different designs.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Allowing cops to be cops is the first place to start.
    how about explaining that. cops are not usually around when people get victimized. If some lady is walking down the street and there is a cop standing on the corner-chances Joe Q Rapist isn''t going to rip her skirt off in front of the constabulary.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    "...According to the report, the VPC found that the number of gun deaths surpassed the number of motor vehicle deaths in ten U.S. states in 2009, the most recent year for which state-level data is available.

    “Motor vehicle deaths are on the decline as the result of a successful decades-long public health-based injury prevention strategy that includes safety-related changes to vehicles and highway design,” reads an entry from the VPC website. “Meanwhile, firearms are the only consumer product not regulated by the federal government for health and safety.”

    In the VPC’s report, ten states are identified as having a higher rate of gun deaths than motor vehicle deaths. The table below illustrates the statistics involving these states:

    State Gun Deaths in 2009 Traffic Deaths in 2009
    Alaska 104 84
    Arizona 856 809
    Colorado 583 565
    Indiana 735 715
    Michigan 1,095 977
    Nevada 406 255
    Oregon 417 394
    Utah 260 256
    Virginia 836 827
    Washington 623 580

    http://dlglawfirm.com/auto-accidents...raffic-deaths/


    Some of those ten states (if not all) have the most lax gun control laws in the country.
    OK, the point is that the other 40 states (4x as many) do not have this "trend" and cars are not designed to harm ANYONE, much less more than guns and cars are a privilege not a right. These statistics do not exclude those killed RIGHTLY (legally) with guns. In how many of the car deaths was ANYONE charged with a criminal offense? The attitude that an "accident" simply happens with MOST car deaths, yet that EVERY gun death is a "tragedy" or preventable "crime" is unbelievable. If the act causing the death was a crime, then that is not within the "control" of the law, as the penalty for "misusing a gun" is peanuts compared to the penalty for the homicide.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I believe, that since he was armored up, he actually thought he would get away with this and live to do it again.
    He was dressed up like Rambo and did a fair impersonation of a tough guy when shooting sitting ducks. But when facing policemen who were equally armed he suddently realized he just had grapenuts in his underwear. Yes, he pussied out for that final fight.

    All that battlewear is useless if you are nothing but a coward.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Furiounova View Post
    I'm not talking about different types of guns. I'm talking about guns. They were designed with one purpose: to kill. Would it help if I said they were invented to kill?
    What is your problem? Some guns were not designed to kill. (The AR-15 carried by Holmes, for example.) What do you think you're accomplishing by continuing to deny it?
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I don't get why he bought 6k rounds. Unless he spent time at the range, he was planning on going to other theatres? Someone can only carry, like, what 1000 rounds reasonably? So what's the other 5k for, and were they in the car.
    yeah looks like a supreme waste of money. Maybe the Aurora Police Department will have more firearms training with all that ammo they are gonna confiscate

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    I'll tell you why, oh inventor of useless drive-bys.

    Because if you limit it to 20 rounds per magazine, I'll just buy more magazines. Now, what problem have you solved? Nothing. It sounds good and feels good to say it, but it prevents nothing.
    Hasn't it been speculated that the Aurora movie shooter had to go back to his car to reload?
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    Umm let's see you got a 20 year old student, looking for work who buys 3 guns amor and 2 gas canisters?

    Sounds like a reed flag should have went up somewhere.

    So instead of gun control being a little tighter , from now on when you go to the movies you stand in line to go through the metal detector or get frisked by security guards thanks the NRA, and some nut with a gun but legally bought and paid for, just like the nut at Virginia tech and those guns.
    why is it the NRA's fault? You see as long as the anti gun extremists blame the NRA its going to be hard for us who are members of the NRA to see your rants as anything more than extreme anti gun psychosis

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    "...According to the report, the VPC found that the number of gun deaths surpassed the number of motor vehicle deaths in ten U.S. states in 2009, the most recent year for which state-level data is available.

    “Motor vehicle deaths are on the decline as the result of a successful decades-long public health-based injury prevention strategy that includes safety-related changes to vehicles and highway design,” reads an entry from the VPC website. “Meanwhile, firearms are the only consumer product not regulated by the federal government for health and safety.”

    In the VPC’s report, ten states are identified as having a higher rate of gun deaths than motor vehicle deaths. The table below illustrates the statistics involving these states:

    State Gun Deaths in 2009 Traffic Deaths in 2009
    Alaska 104 84
    Arizona 856 809
    Colorado 583 565
    Indiana 735 715
    Michigan 1,095 977
    Nevada 406 255
    Oregon 417 394
    Utah 260 256
    Virginia 836 827
    Washington 623 580

    Gun Deaths Outnumber Traffic Deaths in Washington, Nine Other States


    Some of those ten states (if not all) have the most lax gun control laws in the country.
    do you know how dishonest the VPC is? its leader was fired by the brady bunch for his dishonest extremism

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    And you are wrong, as has been pointed out by at least four posters. "Guns are designed to kill" is worse than a generalization, it's an outright fallacy, every single firearm is designed to fire a projectile and that's it, rifles, handguns, assault rifles, full-autos, handguns, shotguns, etc. are all designed to specifically influence the flight trajectory, entrance/exit points, and other ballistic capabilities of the projectile. Not only are the TYPES different but within the TYPES different models have different designs.
    For the last time. I am talking about why guns were invented. Do you really want to claim the evolution of the gun had people saying:

    "Hey, let's use gunpowder to fire a projectile."

    "Great idea!!"

    This is why gunners get laughed at because they refuse to employ basic intellectual honesty.

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