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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    How about making it a little more difficult for disturbed and bad people to get guns?
    How would we go about doing that?

    There are safegaurds in place and nothing about Holmes caused any of them to kick in. What next?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Swords were designed to kill too. Wanna outlaw those, too?
    Obviously you dont need me to post for you to put words in my mouth so in the interest of efficiency, just skip the quote button, write whatever you want, put my name next to it, then respond with your best possible argument.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Not to mention that you could do more damage with a gallon of gasoline than you could ever do with a gun.
    Yeah, but that's different.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Not to mention that you could do more damage with a gallon of gasoline than you could ever do with a gun.
    I think carrying a gas can into a movie you might get noticed plus you can smell gas.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Wow this thread moves fast!
    Goshin you are incorrect about the 2nd A referring to some 'unorganized militia'. The Militia Act of 1903 created and defined the unorganized militia. It also gave it the age boundaries, something that best not be mentioned in limiting firearm ownership as I am comfortably over 45 and have ZERO intention of 'standing down' and turning in any firearms I own.

    Most of the 'evidence' on what the Founders meant by militia comes mostly from modern day 2nd A 'experts' and scant from actual contemporary Founder's writings that were recorded in the Constitution. A great deal of ink went into defining articles 1-3, but one poorly constructed sentence on what many claim to be THE final check on tyranny.

    Great detail on how to select congress critters, nary a word on defining the militia. The duties of the President but not on the citizen's duty to the militia.
    I will differ with you on your modern day definition of 'mailitia' is. The malitia was a very old practice and was really the backbone of the Revolution. The founders knew exactly what a militia was adn as they had disolved the standing army, the militia was to be the first line of county defense. Of course the War of 1812 proved the need for a regular standing army, but the concept of the militia remained intact dating to the "able bodied man" law of 1793. The modern day definition that you are referring to with keeping and bering arms of the private citizen is the political NRA rhetoric that only muddles the realities.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Furiounova View Post
    Obviously you dont need me to post for you to put words in my mouth so in the interest of efficiency, just skip the quote button, write whatever you want, put my name next to it, then respond with your best possible argument.
    Asking an honest question is putting words in your mouth?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Not to mention that you could do more damage with a gallon of gasoline than you could ever do with a gun.
    That is true. Diesel is even worse, it doesn't burn as hot so the fire effect lasts longer. Anyone who disagrees should see the aftermath of a pump ignition at a gas station.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Furiounova View Post
    my problem is the right and left focus only on the guns. There is no honest dialogue on why this epidemic is occurring. You can't use the crazy people approach because other first world nations with similar cultures and guns are not experiencing this kind of terrorism on the same frequency.
    really? these sort of shootings are rather rare in a society as big as ours.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    I will differ with you on your modern day definition of 'mailitia' is. The malitia was a very old practice and was really the backbone of the Revolution. The founders knew exactly what a militia was adn as they had disolved the standing army, the militia was to be the first line of county defense. Of course the War of 1812 proved the need for a regular standing army, but the concept of the militia remained intact dating to the "able bodied man" law of 1793. The modern day definition that you are referring to with keeping and bering arms of the private citizen is the political NRA rhetoric that only muddles the realities.
    The United States has had a standing army since 1775.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Asking an honest question is putting words in your mouth?
    You know dam well I never said I want to outlaw guns and this is the kind of garbage that makes the entire purpose here meaningless.

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