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    Re: Sage Stallone Death: Westboro Baptist Church Plans To Picket Actor's Funeral

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Foley View Post
    Really, under your name it says "Lean: Libertarian"

    Libertarians are internationalists, not nationalists.
    I consider myself a nationalist libertarian. I believe in smaller government as a general principal so that it would apply to all countries. That said given diffrent cultures in the world the government shold be local as possible to serve the local populace. I do not know what you mean by international for libertarians. I would like the movement to become international but I would not welcome internatioal pressure to change the way things are done in America just I do not like pressue to change how things are done in the State of Oklahoma. I of course would by one to apply pressure for my own State.


    Actually the WBC don't have an actual "religious ideology." What they is are a bunch of lawyers who go around and sue municipalities who block their "free speech", or if people get bent out of shape and take a swing at them, they sue them for assault.

    The WBC is the logical conclusion of Libertarianism ideology though, the Libertarian ideology that says anything goes that isn't direct assault.
    I do not intend to do anyting to WBC since I do not want to go to prison and I would be against my libertarian beliefs.
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    Re: Sage Stallone Death: Westboro Baptist Church Plans To Picket Actor's Funeral

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I never advocate new laws. However.

    I think it should be against the law to interfere with funerals. Christian, indeed. Jerks.
    I think that a funeral is a religious service (1st Amendment right) and a narrow exception can be made for prohibiting the WBC from protesting it.
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    Re: Sage Stallone Death: Westboro Baptist Church Plans To Picket Actor's Funeral

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Foley View Post
    Really, under your name it says "Lean: Libertarian"

    Libertarians are internationalists, not nationalists.
    You're obviously ignorant of what Libertarianism is. Not surprised after seeing your train wreck in the Ask a Texan thread.

    Actually the WBC don't have an actual "religious ideology." What they is are a bunch of lawyers who go around and sue municipalities who block their "free speech", or if people get bent out of shape and take a swing at them, they sue them for assault.
    They're Southern Baptists with strong Calvinist influence. You should do some homework before shooting your mouth off.

    The WBC is the logical conclusion of Libertarianism ideology though, the Libertarian ideology that says anything goes that isn't direct assault.
    Which Libertarian ideology? It's a multifaceted political philosophy with differing leans and views.
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    Re: Sage Stallone Death: Westboro Baptist Church Plans To Picket Actor's Funeral

    BULL. LIbertarians believe in personal responsibility and good ethics. WBC is an example of the evil man's mind can manifest.

    I'm sorry to say this, but I hope those Westboro critters get what's coming to them on this Earth and beyond. The sooner the better.
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    Re: Sage Stallone Death: Westboro Baptist Church Plans To Picket Actor's Funeral

    It is people like those with WBC who make resaonable people reconsider freedoms. Good people see no place for them in a civil world.

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    Re: Sage Stallone Death: Westboro Baptist Church Plans To Picket Actor's Funeral

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Ive seen their church, in Topeka, cuz im from around there, and its more like a compound. I heard that the Chruch is mostly the Phelps family and extended family members.
    Of course they live in a gated structure, everybody in the country wants to kill them.
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    Re: Sage Stallone Death: Westboro Baptist Church Plans To Picket Actor's Funeral

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    I keep wondering when I'm going to pull up the Huffington Post on my laptop to read that someone pulled out a gun and shot members of the Westboro Baptist Church. I don't condone that behavior, mind you, and if anyone is reading this and thinking of doing that, please don't. Get counseling instead. What I am saying is that kind of news won't surprise me. If I read that, I would not be saying, "I just can't believe it. Who would want to hurt those nice people?"



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    My heart goes out to Stallone and family -- parents burying their children must be profoundly painful.

    That being said, if he went Rambo on them, that would be awesome.

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    Re: Sage Stallone Death: Westboro Baptist Church Plans To Picket Actor's Funeral

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It is people like those with WBC who make resaonable people reconsider freedoms. Good people see no place for them in a civil world.
    Free speech is a tough issue. The WBC would not be able to exist in Canada because Canada has more limits on free speech than we do via the Canadian Human Rights Commission. It's a court-like system where someone can sue someone for hate speech. If the WBC were in Canada, they would certainly get their butts kicked in the CHRC. I wouldn't feel sorry for them. However, the CHRC has also caused free speech controversies in Canada. Critics say it gags legitimate free speech by making it too easy to frivolously sue when your feelings get hurt while it's difficult to defend oneself in such a lawsuit. The Wikipedia article gives a good overview of it:

    Canadian Human Rights Commission free speech controversy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    If you're interested, google it. It's a fascinating issue up north.

    This post is not an attack on Canada. I actually like a lot about that country, but I worry that the CHRC goes too far. I would be worried if we had an organization like it in the USA. I guess the moral of the story is, whenever we get upset over despicable speech like that of the Westboro Baptist Church, we need to be very careful when we start considering ways to shut them up.

    I don't claim to have all the answers, and I do think WBC crosses the line into harassment. I just urge caution lest we end up damaging our free speech rights.
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    Re: Sage Stallone Death: Westboro Baptist Church Plans To Picket Actor's Funeral

    Quote Originally Posted by Lokiate View Post
    I'd be lying if I said I haven't strongly considered it. Counseling won't save them if they step foot in this town.
    Remember the small town.. Alabama I think. They were burying a soldier..

    The morning of the funeral the locals pulled their cars behind the WBC people who were staying at a local motel... So they couldn't move their cars.

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    Re: Sage Stallone Death: Westboro Baptist Church Plans To Picket Actor's Funeral

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Remember the small town.. Alabama I think. They were burying a soldier..

    The morning of the funeral the locals pulled their cars behind the WBC people who were staying at a local motel... So they couldn't move their cars.

    There is more than one way to skin a cat.
    LOL. I didn't know that. Thanks. I'd be the WBC people screamed about their free speech rights. I hope the people who parked them in took the opportunity to exercise their free speech. Ha ha.

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