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    Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Deputies Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door

    Fla. deputies shoot, kill wrong suspect - Law Enforcement News

    Police lieutenant: 'The bottom line is, you point a gun at a deputy...you're going to get shot'


    "When we knocked on the door, the door opened and the occupant of that apartment was pointing a gun at deputies, and that's when we opened fire and killed him," Lt. John Herrell said. "Even though this subject is not the one we were looking for when he opened the door. He was pointing the gun at the deputy and if you put yourselves in the deputy's shoes. They were there to pick up someone who was wanted for an attempted homicide."
    I don't think the deputies did anything wrong at all.

    "IF" the small details in the story are true they were in the right. Who opens their door, not asking who it is simply pointing a gun? That's just not smart.

    Its unfortunate but I dont think theres any fault on the LEOs
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    When you point guns at people you run the risk of being shot. When you point a gun at cops that risk is elevated.
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    I can't seem to find it in the article; did the police identify themselves when they knocked?

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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalModerate View Post
    I can't seem to find it in the article; did the police identify themselves when they knocked?
    article states

    In the early-morning hours, deputies knocked on 26-year-old Andrew Lee Scott's door without identifying themselves as law enforcement officers. Scott answered the door with a gun in his hand.
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    When you point guns at people you run the risk of being shot. When you point a gun at cops that risk is elevated.
    Agreed!

    Now again with the details provided it seems like a totally legit shoot.

    I own guns and I have CWP.

    If somebody knocks on my door late at night unexpected I might take my gun with me, but I certainly dont open the door and just point it at who ever is on the other side?? Thats silly.

    Hell I dont even open the door if I cant see who it is or identify the people without say "who is it"?

    Seems weird.
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    article states

    In the early-morning hours, deputies knocked on 26-year-old Andrew Lee Scott's door without identifying themselves as law enforcement officers. Scott answered the door with a gun in his hand.
    You beat me to it.

    In my mind, I can't believe it would be safe to identify ones' self as a LEO when attempting to arrest someone for homocide. I think this is LEOs will often try to "engineer" their arrest to, like, when he's walking out to his car. There'd be nothing more dangerous than standing at the door and announcing yourself to a guy who's wanted for murder. And, oh, by the way, I've learned to shoot three times: once at the door and once (or more) at either side. I don't watch crime drama for nothin', baby.
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalModerate View Post
    I can't seem to find it in the article; did the police identify themselves when they knocked?
    No and why would they yet, they havent been asked, the door wasnt opened yet for a meet a greet and they were there looking for a murder suspect.

    Police have come to my door and not identified themselves until I asked who is it or saw them through the peek hole
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    article states

    In the early-morning hours, deputies knocked on 26-year-old Andrew Lee Scott's door without identifying themselves as law enforcement officers. Scott answered the door with a gun in his hand.
    Thanks.

    Aren't police usually required to identify themselves? Or at least wouldn't it seem like a good idea with the 1:30am visit?

    This just seems like a convergence of circumstances and the result was almost out of anyone's control.

    Is it against the law to open the door with a gun? It was early in the morning, a 1:30am knock usually isn't a good thing. Police didn't identify themselves, but they were looking for a attempted murder suspect. I doubt they wanted to advertise their presence too much.

    Dunno about this one. Just seems like pure unfortunate coincidence.

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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalModerate View Post
    Thanks.

    Aren't police usually required to identify themselves? Or at least wouldn't it seem like a good idea with the 1:30am visit?

    This just seems like a convergence of circumstances and the result was almost out of anyone's control.

    Is it against the law to open the door with a gun? It was early in the morning, a 1:30am knock usually isn't a good thing. Police didn't identify themselves, but they were looking for a attempted murder suspect. I doubt they wanted to advertise their presence too much.

    Dunno about this one. Just seems like pure unfortunate coincidence.
    thats what I think too

    and from the article he just didnt open the door with gun in hand but pointed it.
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    thats what I think too

    and from the article he just didnt open the door with gun in hand but pointed it.
    I can totally see both sides here. If I get a cop knock at 1:30am but no identification as police, I would definitely have my shotgun when I see who it is. I certainly wouldn't open barrel first, but still, I can understand why the guy would have his gun with him.

    On the other hand, the cops can't have people pointing guns at them, not to mention they were already on high alert looking for a murder suspect. Like I already said, I doubt the cops smoke out suspects by advertising their presence.

    It's a tragedy, both sides are guilty and innocent at the same time, I guess.

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