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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Well I'm sure if I used broken logic, you could certainly provide such evidence, yes?
    WOW!!!!!

    actually YES

    isnt that what that post just said LMAO

    I even asked you if you wanted proof and then asked you a questions LMAO

    now please answer the question.

    Currently what are the facts of this case?
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    The difference there is evidence of a crime being committed in one scenario and no evidence in the other. Do you really not understand the difference?
    Hmmm, ok. So there is "evidence" there and that excuses the arrest wherein a cop commits a possible crime, and there is nothing.

    How many cops get arrested for crimes they commit? Or would it be your claim that no cop commits crime?

    The real difference is government vs. individual, BTW. Individual is unrestricted and State must prove against. Government is restricted and can only operate under specific methods and many times only with permission of other branches of government. As such, a cop acting improperly is 100's of times worse than an individual acting improperly as the police officer abuses the power and sovereignty of the People in the act of their crime wherein the individual abuses only their personal liberty. Which is not to say they cannot infringe upon the rights of others, but in doing so they have abused the freedom they enjoy but not the power and sovereignty of the People on whole.
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    WOW!!!!!

    actually YES

    isnt that what that post just said LMAO

    I even asked you if you wanted proof and then asked you a questions LMAO

    now please answer the question.

    Currently what are the facts of this case?
    ....so you could certainly provide such evidence, yes? How about doing so?
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    ....so you could certainly provide such evidence, yes? How about doing so?
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    Dodge of question: 3
    So....you cannot show evidence of my "faulty logic"? It's already written down, yes? I've already committed it, yes? It requires no further input. Can you demonstrate my faulty logic? Or were you making absurd claims based on planned future posts?
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Hmmm, ok. So there is "evidence" there and that excuses the arrest wherein a cop commits a possible crime, and there is nothing.
    This statement does not make sense.

    Instance 1: A man and a friend attempt to beat a man to death with a cinderblock for no justifiable reason that we aware of. There are witnesses who corraborate the assault including the victim himself. The suspect in the case had fled from police and given no statement that is contradictory or any attempt to justify his behavior.

    Instance 2: A man shot a man who was attempting to kill him and others. He shot the man in self defense and witnesses can back his claim of self defense. This man gave his statement and is no flight risk.

    One of these scenarios has evidence that a crime was committed. One of them does not. See if you can determine which is which. The difference between them is not that one is a cop vs a civilian. the difference is evidence of a crime vs no evidence of a crime.

    Furthermore you are ducking my question too. Should people be subjected to arrest and imprisonment if there is no evidence that they committed a crime?
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    So....you cannot show evidence of my "faulty logic"? It's already written down, yes? I've already committed it, yes? It requires no further input. Can you demonstrate my faulty logic? Or were you making absurd claims based on planned future posts?
    He is asking you if you know of and can post the actual facts of the case. He has asked you 3 or 4 times. Like you are doing with questions I ask you, you are purposefully choosing not to answer them and instead are doing nothing more than quoting the text and then addressing things that arent being asked then pretending that by simply quoting text you answered the questions. Doesnt work that way.
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    Should people be subjected to arrest and imprisonment if there is no evidence that they committed a crime?
    Ask George Zimmerman.
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    Should people be subjected to arrest and imprisonment if there is no evidence that they committed a crime?
    Nope, and that goes for a lot of things, from domestic abuse to sexual abuse. A man was shot. That we know. The people and his friends claim it is justified, that we know too.

    Let me ask you this. Say some gang banger punk is at the scene of a crime, him and his gang banger friends see a dude and they shoot him dead. Dead dude had a gun. Cops show up. Gang banger kid says "yeah I shot him, but he pointed his gun at me", his gang banger friends say "yeah, he shot him, but the other dude was pointing a gun". What happens?
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    He is asking you if you know of and can post the actual facts of the case. He has asked you 3 or 4 times. Like you are doing with questions I ask you, you are purposefully choosing not to answer them and instead are doing nothing more than quoting the text and then addressing things that arent being asked then pretending that by simply quoting text you answered the questions. Doesnt work that way.
    No, he said I have used faulty logic. I asked him to demonstrate such, and that has been forever dodged to this point. That's all.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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