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    Why would anyone answer their door at 1:30am in the first place, unless it is for an expected visitor? Eff that, come back another time, during normal human awake-time hours.
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    Why would anyone answer their door at 1:30am in the first place? Eff that, come back another time, during normal human awake time hours.
    This smells funny....if the suspect is dangerous enough to go after at that time of night, why is it just 2 deputies? Why not a swat team with red and blue lights flashing?. If I got that knock, I would call 911 and say someone is banging on my door, send some uniforms in a marked car please....

    If the guy isn't that dangerous, surely he has to go out some time, get him on the street when he isn't suspecting any thing.
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    It said he was pointing the gun at the deputies.
    Who is "it"? If both cops shot (and killed) the "suspect", and no other witnesses are mentioned then "it" is the shooters themselves that are the ONLY witnesses. Hardly beyond a reasonable doubt. What would you expect them to say? Do you think they will admit to simply thinking themselves in danger when facing a "suspect" that has a gun, even if it was NOT pointed at them? They did not know that they had not killed the "suspect" until later. Hmm...
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    When you point guns at people you run the risk of being shot. When you point a gun at cops that risk is elevated.
    If he did indeed have the gun "pointed at a cop", his biggest mistake was not pulling the trigger first when the cop drew his gun. In this instance, he had every bit as much right as the cop to self defense. Last I checked, it wasn't against the law to answer your door while holding a gun. Don't care if it's "stupid." Don't care if it's not something a lot of people do. Only care if it's legal.

    It's not his fault the cops screwed up.

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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Might be time for all of them to wear helmet cams when entering like this, provided they have nothing to hide.

    When things are legit, the video would be used to discourage wrongful death lawsuits thus saving the taxpayers money.

    If a victims family typically sues for lets say 5 million dollars, then that 5 million dollars would be better off spent on the video equipment IMO.



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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    If he did indeed have the gun "pointed at a cop", his biggest mistake was not pulling the trigger first when the cop drew his gun. In this instance, he had every bit as much right as the cop to self defense. Last I checked, it wasn't against the law to answer your door while holding a gun. Don't care if it's "stupid." Don't care if it's not something a lot of people do. Only care if it's legal.

    It's not his fault the cops screwed up.
    if his gun was pointed already, wonder why he didn't get a shot off?
    at the least, the cops are incompetent.....
    there is surely more to this story, but we probably won't hear it...
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    If he did indeed have the gun "pointed at a cop", his biggest mistake was not pulling the trigger first when the cop drew his gun. In this instance, he had every bit as much right as the cop to self defense. Last I checked, it wasn't against the law to answer your door while holding a gun. Don't care if it's "stupid." Don't care if it's not something a lot of people do. Only care if it's legal.

    It's not his fault the cops screwed up.
    per the info we have

    cops didn't screw up

    he screwed up if he did come to the door with his gun drawn and pointing at people
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    if his gun was pointed already, wonder why he didn't get a shot off?
    at the least, the cops are incompetent.....
    there is surely more to this story, but we probably won't hear it...
    Oh, stop with the conspiracy theories... next you'll be claiming that cops are breaking into the homes of 92 year old women unannounced, gunning them down in a flurry of bullets, and covering the whole thing up with planted drugs, falsified documents, and stories about how these seemingly sweet old ladies were really vicious cocaine dealers ...

    Oh, wait...
    Kathryn Johnston shooting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Just kidding about the conspiracy part.

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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    per the info we have

    cops didn't screw up

    he screwed up if he did come to the door with his gun drawn and pointing at people
    What Florida law makes it illegal to point a gun at people who are standing on your property?

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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Oh, stop with the conspiracy theories... next you'll be claiming that cops are breaking into the homes of 92 year old women unannounced, gunning them down in a flurry of bullets, and covering the whole thing up with planted drugs, falsified documents, and stories about how these seemingly sweet old ladies were really vicious cocaine dealers ...

    Oh, wait...
    Kathryn Johnston shooting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Just kidding about the conspiracy part.
    I get it, but watch for the cover-up....
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