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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    ?????

    how in the heck do you determine its fact they didnt announce themselves but its not fact he pointed a gun?

    that makes no sense

    did I miss something? arent both these pieces of info from the word of the cops?

    why do you assume one is true and are suspicious of the other? just asking
    OK, so fact is that the cops shot someone dead and all we currently have is excuse by them for their own behavior and no proof that they acted properly in the least.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    put the shoe on the other foot, what should a citizen do if he thinks a cop is about to murder him?
    either way, the question is stupid.
    Every person has the right to self defense if they are going to be murdered. It is not a stupid question it is the reality of the situation that these cops faced. A man was about to murder them for knocking on his door.
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    OK, so fact is that the cops shot someone dead and all we currently have is excuse by them for their own behavior and no proof that they acted properly in the least.
    Will you please tell me what they should do? I have asked you 4 or 5 times now. C'mon this is getting rediculous.
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    the reports we have state that the cops did NOT announce themselves...
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    There was the cop who shot and the cops who were with him.
    So only the government agency involved in the incident is witness to the incident.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    Every person has the right to self defense if they are going to be murdered. It is not a stupid question it is the reality of the situation that these cops faced. A man was about to murder them for knocking on his door.
    Does that include the man in his house, or is that guy just open season?
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    Will you please tell me what they should do? I have asked you 4 or 5 times now. C'mon this is getting rediculous.
    I answered before. It's ridiculous, BTW.

    And the permanent solution is to always have video cameras with cops. Dash board cams are great, they should be included on other equipment for altercations of this sort with proper rules in place to forbid abuse of the tech.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Does that include the man in his house, or is that guy just open season?
    Getting a work out with all this ducking and dodging of the question today. Excercise is good i suppose. But when you are done avoiding the questions, think you can answer it or is that asking too much?
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    Every person has the right to self defense if they are going to be murdered. It is not a stupid question it is the reality of the situation that these cops faced. A man was about to murder them for knocking on his door.
    a man was about to defend himself, not murder someone....granted he went at it wrong, but you are stating it wrong...
    Incompetence, pure and simple....
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I answered before. It's ridiculous, BTW.

    And the permanent solution is to always have video cameras with cops. Dash board cams are great, they should be included on other equipment for altercations of this sort with proper rules in place to forbid abuse of the tech.
    There was no camera. Answer the question. Should a cop who is about to murdered defend himself or just die when no other witnesses are present, cameras included. STOP avoiding this question and answer it.
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