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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    So at what point was he POINTING A GUN AT ANYONE? All information says he simply had a gun, which would be a reasonable reaction to the disturbance experienced. But no, this is well trained and good policing, yes? Shooting someone for reasonable reactions.
    I guess when you half ass read something and ignore the parts that dont fit your irrational hatred of authority the above is the garbage you would spew forth. However since you asked at what point he was pointing the gun I will refer you the article you should have read before inputting this nonsense into the thread.

    "When we knocked on the door, the door opened and the occupant of that apartment was pointing a gun at deputies, and that's when we opened fire and killed him," Lt. John Herrell said.
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    So somebody reacting reasonably and being shot for it is a sign of good training and good cops, huh?

    just to clarify

    if he opened the door with the gun pointed at the cops like it says that is NOT acting reasonable
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I did reply. I asked if being shot for a reasonable reaction is a sign of good training and good cops. Please try a bit of honesty in your arguments.
    There was no reasonable reaction on his part. he was shot for pointing a gun at cops. There is no reasonable reaction that involves attempting to murder people for knocking on your door. Your attempt to lie and twist things is pathetic as is your attempt to put me on the spot for lying. Read the article and try replying with actual facts of the case not imagined conpsiracy theories that might have happened.
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    ikari- here is the link for you. please read it before replying.

    Fla. deputies shoot, kill 'wrong' suspect - Law Enforcement News
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    ikari- here is the link for you. please read it before replying.

    Fla. deputies shoot, kill 'wrong' suspect - Law Enforcement News
    Oh, well that clears it all up. Someone shoots someone dead and then says they were justified in doing so, then they totally must have been justified. I don't even see why we need a court system.
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    There was no reasonable reaction on his part. he was shot for pointing a gun at cops. There is no reasonable reaction that involves attempting to murder people for knocking on your door. Your attempt to lie and twist things is pathetic as is your attempt to put me on the spot for lying. Read the article and try replying with actual facts of the case not imagined conpsiracy theories that might have happened.
    It is reasonable to arm yourself against late night intrusions upon your home and have a weapon in hand or readily available.
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    ikari- here is the link for you. please read it before replying.

    Fla. deputies shoot, kill 'wrong' suspect - Law Enforcement News
    yeah, no bias there....Law Enforcement News? and you aren't biased, saying that Ikari has an irrational hatred of authoriity?
    can you prove that, or is this your contribution to the cover up?
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    just to clarify

    if he opened the door with the gun pointed at the cops like it says that is NOT acting reasonable
    Yes, likely you shouldn't open a door while pointing the gun at anyone. Though just having the gun in hand is not that.

    I guess the real moral of this story is to not open the door and just shoot through it, just in case cops are on the other side looking to gun your ass down.
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Oh, well that clears it all up. Someone shoots someone dead and then says they were justified in doing so, then they totally must have been justified. I don't even see why we need a court system.
    Evidence? or is all y ou need is a hatred of cops?
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    Evidence? or is all y ou need is a hatred of cops?
    I need evidence. What we have is government force applied against the most fundamental of rights. The government is not assumed innocent, the government must PROVE it acted properly. If they cannot offer up the evidence, then actions must be taken against them.
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