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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalModerate View Post
    Thanks.

    Aren't police usually required to identify themselves? Or at least wouldn't it seem like a good idea with the 1:30am visit?

    This just seems like a convergence of circumstances and the result was almost out of anyone's control.

    Is it against the law to open the door with a gun? It was early in the morning, a 1:30am knock usually isn't a good thing. Police didn't identify themselves, but they were looking for a attempted murder suspect. I doubt they wanted to advertise their presence too much.

    Dunno about this one. Just seems like pure unfortunate coincidence.
    I dont think it is illegal to have a gun in your hand, but it is illegal to point it at someone.

    Another thought I had is that this guy knew who was at the door. If you are paranoid enough to be opening a door with gun you are going to peek out a window or peephole before you open it.
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalModerate View Post
    I can totally see both sides here. If I get a cop knock at 1:30am but no identification as police, I would definitely have my shotgun when I see who it is. I certainly wouldn't open barrel first, but still, I can understand why the guy would have his gun with him.

    On the other hand, the cops can't have people pointing guns at them, not to mention they were already on high alert looking for a murder suspect. Like I already said, I doubt the cops smoke out suspects by advertising their presence.

    It's a tragedy, both sides are guilty and innocent at the same time, I guess.
    Yep thats what I said too, i may TAKE my gun with me but I never just open the door pointing it at people or not simple ask who it is. Maybe its just me but is it common for people to blindly open their doors and/or not ask who it is? I doubt it

    I dont see any guilt on the deputy's side unless more comes out.

    But like you side its just a freak occurrence thats unfortunate
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalModerate View Post

    Is it against the law to open the door with a gun?

    It said he was pointing the gun at the deputies.

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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    opening a door with a loaded gun pointed straight?

    that's asking to die.

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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    I blame door-to-door evangalizing.

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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I blame door-to-door evangalizing.
    Thats actually pretty funny!
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Wasn't the guy "standing his ground?"


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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Wasn't the guy "standing his ground?"
    Funny, but a good point. If the guy had just shot 'em both dead, he'd probably have a defense. "People banging on my door at 1 AM . . . " and all that. Hmmmmmmm.

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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Upon who's WORD was the occupant seen actually "pointing the gun at the officer(s)"? I am sure that is the "official" version, yet the "code of the blue" is NOT going to allow a mistake (in address) to let ANYONE live if they merely SEE that they have a gun, they likely will simply say GUN and all fire at the "suspect". I seriously doubt that this went down 100% as reported.
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    I dont think it is illegal to have a gun in your hand, but it is illegal to point it at someone.

    Another thought I had is that this guy knew who was at the door. If you are paranoid enough to be opening a door with gun you are going to peek out a window or peephole before you open it.
    You never look out the window, if you think bad guys are at the door.

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