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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    The very simple explanation is exactly what I posted before. Cops dont work on a schedule that is convienient to the working world. They dont stop looking for arresting people after 7 pm. When his vehicle was ID'd they acted. It would be severely stupid for them to notice his vehicle there and ignore and just hope it would still be there at 9 am so they wouldnt inconvienience him. They werent serving him with papers they were looking for the suspect in an attempted murder.

    Also you have posted 0 evidence of police wrong doing.
    Okay.. But at they same time they cant just slam on someone's door at 1 in the morning without announcing "POLICE!" and expect people to not show up to their own door with a weapon (no matter how badly a cop doesn't want a suspect to get away. Or you may get situations like this very one). If someone is slamming on their front door at 1am, unannounced, you better believe a smart person would have a weapon in hand. This guy died because he followed his defensive instincts and cops negligence by not announcing themselves as police as they proceeded to bash on this guys door during after midnight hours.

    People are saying, "This guys is stupid for pointing a weapon at cops." Well... To him they weren't cops because they didn't announce themselves. To the victim some asshole was just pounding at his door with zero respect and possibly a motive.
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    no, I have posted enough evidence....
    unless you can explain the obvious, being the TIME OF DAY they approached the door....how is that excusable?
    you havent posted ANY evidence LMAO

    uhm because they were looking for a murder suspect

    you have posted ZERO "evidence" that the cops were "inept" LOL

    my door has been approached at that time looking for less

    why do you think 1:30 is to late to look for a murder LMAO
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Are you serious? An innocent man gunned down by police in his own home is evidence of good training and execution by good cops? That is beyond sick.
    I could be wrong but I dont think he believes that, he'll have to answer

    I said the same thing, but it was to point out how utterly stupid and retarded it is to say the opposite that a dead body is proof that the coops were at fault.

    also per the story he isn't innocent really unless you are just referring to the innocent until guilty saying
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    I think this is very weird..

    Why didn't they knock and say POLICE?

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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    don't have to, the body is the evidence...of 2 things, a stupid mistake by the citizen, and a stupid mistake by the cops...
    I accept that it is likely just a mistake, but it was an AVOIDABLE mistake....
    if this is an example of their training, they need better training...
    the problem is, per the story we only have proof of the stupid mistake by the citizen

    there is no proof of one by the cops, its pure speculation and guessing on your part

    arent all most mistakes avoidable, thats meaningless

    but agree if the guy doesnt come to his door and making the mistake of pointing his gun at anybody on the otherside for no real reason then his death is avoided
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    Okay.. But at they same time they cant just slam on someone's door at 1 in the morning without announcing "POLICE!" and expect people to not show up to their own door with a weapon (no matter how badly a cop doesn't want a suspect to get away. Or you may get situations like this very one). If someone is slamming on their front door at 1am, unannounced, you better believe a smart person would have a weapon in hand. This guy died because he followed his defensive instincts and cops negligence by not announcing themselves as police as they proceeded to bash on this guys door during after midnight hours.

    People are saying, "This guys is stupid for pointing a weapon at cops." Well... To him they weren't cops because they didn't announce themselves. To the victim some asshole was just pounding at his door with zero respect and possibly a motive.
    cops dont have to announce themselves when knockin on a door LMAO

    the guy is stupid for pointin his gun at people he didnt know simply because they knocked on his door. Nobody smart does that.
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    I think this is very weird..

    Why didn't they knock and say POLICE?
    police have been to my house many times over my life, do you know how many times they announced themselves before I asked? ZERO

    not to mention if they are looking for a murder suspect why announce yourselves, nothing weird about that
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    you havent posted ANY evidence LMAO

    uhm because they were looking for a murder suspect

    you have posted ZERO "evidence" that the cops were "inept" LOL

    my door has been approached at that time looking for less

    why do you think 1:30 is to late to look for a murder LMAO
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    He is innocent unless we dont have the right to arms and to defend ourself. If the cops weren't hiding out of view of the peephole or said "POLICE!" then no one would have died. If the guys intention was to point a gun at a cop then the cop would have been shot. Cops tried too hard to "collect" a suspect and put em on their trophy shelf. They knocked on his door unannounced like gangsters and killed him like gangsters.

    Seeing as the victim was innocent too bad he didn't just shoot the cops and plea not guilty do to them not announcing themselves (and him being surprised by a hello at gunpoint). If cops are performing self sanctioned stings based on muddy concrete circumstantial evidence then ****s going to go wrong. Like this story. The cops didn't KNOW one way or the other if this motorcycle was associated with the house. These super detectives really ****ed up hard.
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Are you serious? An innocent man gunned down by police in his own home is evidence of good training and execution by good cops? That is beyond sick.
    How was he innocent? He threatened the lives of police officers. Should they just stand there and wait till they are shot to react? or until he shoots someone else? You point, you die. They reacted apporopriately. He was not innocent.
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