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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I cant disagree with you....but what about asking who is it...how about not opening the door until you know whos there....how about cracking the door with gun in hand...
    Sometimes that's risky too. I remember a while back where some guy got shot through his door at another complex in this town. Personally, if I'm not expecting the knock at the door, I won't answer it. I can't speak for this guy, but those circumstances would instantly put me on edge. Different people react to things differently, and few people can run on all cylinders after they're woken up in the middle of the night.

    how about answering the door without the gun pointed at anyone....I said in an earlier post something isnt right with this...there seems to be pieces missing that arent allowing us to see the whole picture...
    That's one of the things that doesn't add up with me abut this story, and I don't believe it went down like they said. The deputies claim he opened the door with the firearm pointed at them. Now, I've had cops come to serve a warrant before. First, it's always been like 5-8 police officers, and that was just for a for non-violent offense. Second, they never had their weapons drawn. Just the one officer holding up the warrant at the peep hole, announcing their presence, who they are, and why they were there. The other officers behind him had their hands placed on their weapons when I opened the door, but the weapons weren't unholstered. I don't know if police protocol is different in that area, but even Cali cops keep their pistol holstered unless a person is openly showing that they are hostile, and an immediate threat to others.
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    I guess the only witnesses are the killer and the two cops that were with him at the time. That's convenient.

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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    LMAO more fantasy

    ill stick with facts and what we know so far

    deputies didnt screw up
    a man is dead
    the right man is dead because he is the stupid one that pointed his gun at people outside his door
    and you will hold that opinion tight in your head until someone you love is killed in the same way?
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    Common sense tell me someone that opens their door and points a gun at people for no real reason isnt to bright and is the person with a few screws loose. I can say I dont know anybody that would do with this guy did LOL

    also where the hell does that second part come in at, where you there hiding? how do you know that happened and where the guy was.

    nobody normal does what this genius did.
    you were there? no, none of us were...but the version being told smells to high heaven. The dead man was killed for doing something stupid in front of armed men with improper training.

    being stupid usually isn't a felony and even then doesn't carry the death penalty.

    And if anyone think cops don't lie.....they have a lot to learn.
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    uhm I dont know but logically my GUESS would be nothing. What could they do? they didnt have a warrant they were doing a door knock searching for a prep. Their option would be limited, stake out the place, knock on another door or get a warrant and that warrant wouldn't be for that house.

    WHats your GUESS on what they would do?
    have you entirely missed the fact that this occurred at 1:30AM? Nothing in the reports so far indicate that there was eminent danger to the community, except for the obvious fact that the LEO need to be trained properly before letting them carry guns.
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Why are two officers trying to arrest a murderer? Isn't that when they call for back-up? My common sense tells me that everything Dianna posted is pretty much on target.

    If you're not a LEO, your opinion's as good as the rest of ours. Just sayin'...l
    Why wouldnt two officers arrest a murder?
    ONE came to my house that was looking for a rapist who TRIED to murder his victium but failed

    and I agree unless I was a LEO with FACTS my opinon is just as good but the HUGE difference is that I keep saying that per the facts they didnt mess up and others are GUESSING they did it wrong based on thing made up from the movies and TV. LMAO

    People are pushing thier opinions as fact and Im calling BS and or asking the question "says who"

    Im sticking to the story at hand and others are rewriting it, see the difference

    So "my opinion" is stick with what we know and not makes up stuff and assume stuff.

    Im sticking with my original statement because it hasnt even been closed to logically being proved wrong.

    Per the info at hand the officers did nothing wrong and the guy was at fault.

    There are no facts in the article to counter that statement, that COULD change though if more details come out.
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by ChunkySalsa View Post
    Innocent until proven guilty should only apply to civilians. For officers of the law, it should be guilty until proven innocent with the burden of proof firmly on the government. They should be recorded every second they are on the clock and that information should be publicly available.

    These cops need to convince us why they should be charged with manslaughter instead of murder.
    currently has it stands they shouldnt be charged with anything no grounds to charge them per the facts we currently have
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    I know I'm going to get hog-tied and whipped for this, but I also know it's true:

    If this victim had been black? We'd have a whole different story going on. Sorry, but I can't help noting the complete and total disparity.
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    and you will hold that opinion tight in your head until someone you love is killed in the same way?
    currently its not an opinion, im going off the facts

    if a loved one was killed in the same way nothing would change for me, id want an investigation of course but my first thoughts would still be why did that idiot not ask who it is and point a gun at whoever was on the other side for no legit reason, thats stupid and I would feel my loved one did something that got themselves killed.

    nice try though

    again, if other details come out that could EASILY change but per the story and current facts, cops aernt at fault and that guy did something stupid that got himself killed.
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    Re: Fla. Deputies Shoot and Kill Man After Knocking On Wrong Door. ‎

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    Why wouldnt two officers arrest a murder?
    ONE came to my house that was looking for a rapist who TRIED to murder his victium but failed

    and I agree unless I was a LEO with FACTS my opinon is just as good but the HUGE difference is that I keep saying that per the facts they didnt mess up and others are GUESSING they did it wrong based on thing made up from the movies and TV. LMAO

    People are pushing thier opinions as fact and Im calling BS and or asking the question "says who"

    Im sticking to the story at hand and others are rewriting it, see the difference

    So "my opinion" is stick with what we know and not makes up stuff and assume stuff.

    Im sticking with my original statement because it hasnt even been closed to logically being proved wrong.

    Per the info at hand the officers did nothing wrong and the guy was at fault.

    There are no facts in the article to counter that statement, that COULD change though if more details come out.
    Well, I can't help but notice the similarity to the GZ story. One? We are to take the perpetrators at face value. The other? We're to rip the perpetrator to shreds. I'm just sayin'...

    The details of this investigation will probably never be made public. They should be. Coppers should be held to a higher standard of conduct than regular ole' me. I'd like to see public hearings any time a copper discharges his firearm and injures someone. Look at the information that's been realized in the GZ case. Think we'll see that kind of transparency here? I don't.
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