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    Re: US Ship Fires on Boat off Dubai, 1 Dead

    One question I have which will come out in the Investigation. Which is if the Sunni Arabs know the Difference between Pakis' and Hindu Indians?

    Also Reuters out of India says it was a fishing boat. Reuters in the West and the BBC reported it as a Luxury Craft. ABC said it was a small motorized boat. Anyone questioning the 3 out board motors on the back of this so-called Fishing vessel?

    Also there is Politics. As one the Iranians can be testing those waters as most Felt that this Port in the UAE was a safe Harbor. As the Iranians usually are not in this area.

    Also Our Ship is a Supply Fueling Ship. Hence the Seals on Board.

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    Re: US Ship Fires on Boat off Dubai, 1 Dead





    Here is pic of the Ship and one when it was with the Washington Battle-Carrier group!

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    Re: US Ship Fires on Boat off Dubai, 1 Dead

    Here lets take a look at why the Iranians may be probing.....or even some others.

    The 236-mile Abu Dhabi Crude Oil Pipeline snakes across western desert dunes and over the craggy Hajar mountains to the city of Fujairah on the UAE's Indian Ocean coast, south of the strait.

    Until now, all Emirati exports were loaded in the Gulf and then sailed out through Hormuz. Once it is running at full capacity, the pipeline could allow the country, OPEC's third biggest exporter, to ship as much as two-thirds of its peak production through the eastern port city.....snip~


    UAE opens pipeline to bypass Strait of Hormuz


    Goes online this Coming Early August. Think this plays into that strategy of getting into it with Iran? What do you think of the Political ramifications of this move by the Saud and the Sunni? With the help of the Western World.

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    Here is a Map of what things are looking like with the Strait of Hormuz. Around the UAE. Getting that Pipeline Up outside the Strait will now cause the Iranians to become what? Anyone seeing the Bigger part of the Strategy here?

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    Re: US Ship Fires on Boat off Dubai, 1 Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post


    Here is a Map of what things are looking like with the Strait of Hormuz. Around the UAE. Getting that Pipeline Up outside the Strait will now cause the Iranians to become what?
    Irrelevant?
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    Re: US Ship Fires on Boat off Dubai, 1 Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    The trigger happy skipper jumped the gun.
    Yep, this is the kind of response this "manufactured incident" was calculated to produce. Works every bloody time.
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    Re: US Ship Fires on Boat off Dubai, 1 Dead

    That and Isolated.....check this out.


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    Re: US Ship Fires on Boat off Dubai, 1 Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Whether you like it or not, politics enters into the equation - that's simply a fact of life. The question is what the skipper should value more - potentially creating an international incident or eliminating a potential threat to his men and his ship. I think the vast majority of folks in this thread have stated that they agree it should be the latter and not the former. That's all I'm saying.
    I never said politics was not part of the equation. However, it is not within the Skipper's purview to decide political policy.
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    Re: US Ship Fires on Boat off Dubai, 1 Dead

    The Geo-Political Nature of the Strait of Hormuz



    The maritime traffic that goes through the Strait of Hormuz has always been in contact with Iranian naval forces, which are predominantly composed of the Iranian Regular Force Navy and the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Navy. In fact, Iranian naval forces monitor and police the Strait of Hormuz along with the Sultanate of Oman via the Omani enclave of Musandam. More importantly, to transit through the Strait of Hormuz all maritime traffic, including the U.S. Navy, must sail through Iranian territorial waters. Almost all entrances into the Persian Gulf are made through Iranian waters and most exits are through Omani waters.....snip~

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    Re: US Ship Fires on Boat off Dubai, 1 Dead

    As to Iran. Its like the assessment that has been given over and over.
    In order to decapitate Iran and finish itís strike capacity at least 11,000 targets have to be immediately struck. This will be a major war. In particular, the Shahab missile sites have to destroyed immediately because it is a near certainty that at least some of these 2, 000 kilometre range missiles have been programmed to destroy the oil refining capacity of Saudi Arabia.



    U.S. naval strength, which includes the U.S. Navy and the U.S. Coast Guard, has primacy over all the other navies and maritime forces in the world. Its deep sea or oceanic capabilities are unparalleled and unmatched by any other naval power. Primacy does not mean invincibility. U.S. naval forces in the Strait of Hormuz and the Persian Gulf are nonetheless vulnerable.

    Even in 2008 the Washington Institute for Near East Policy acknowledged the threat from Iranís mobile coastal missile batteries, anti-ship missiles, and missile-armed small ships. Other Iranian naval assets like aerial drones, hovercraft, mines, diver teams, and mini-submarines could also be used in asymmetrical naval warfare against the U.S. Fifth Fleet.....snip~

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