Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

kamikaze483 said:

At a campaign stop in Roanoke, VA, Obama takes a shot at entreprenuers and small business owners, suggesting that they are not responsible for the success of their own businesses.

IMO, blatant comments such as these show the disrespect that Obama has for ingenuity, resourcefulness, and hard work. I do not think comments such as these will benefit him among independent and other swing voters.

Also, I find it interesting that no other major news outlet other than Fox News picked up this story. Interesting, but not surprising.

Quoting Obama,




Obama to business owners: 'You didn't build that' | Fox News

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Sphere said:

So NBC, ABC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN, & CNN Headline news, all of these are not credible news sources either?

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hazlnut said:

Why, because they (except MSNBC) only have a right of center lean and not a far-right bias like Fox.

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TurtleDude said:

this is just plain stupid. you claim to be a moderate when you are far left. You claim that NBC ABC, CBS and CNN are right of center when most people see them as left wing. You can only claim this if you are far far left

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AdamT said:

Look at the wingnuts making up something the president didn't say and then getting all mad about it. :lamo

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TurtleDude said:

sort of like the obama slurpers accusing Romney of stuff he never did?

the fact is that your party is full of people who believe in that communitarian nonsense from Obama to Fauxchontas

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washunut said:

Sadly this is the race Obama and Mr T want to run. Talk about anything other than the job Obama has done,especially on the economy.

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rocket88 said:

Here's what I get from what he said: businesses do not exist in a vacuum. I'll bet Romney knows this. They need customers to sell stuff to so they can make a profit.

Unfortunately, it seems like the Republican base has forgotten this. Apparently people start businesses and create jobs out of the goodness of their hearts.

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washunut said:

Funny, from the posters who want to pin Romney to the wall if his words are a bit off, now we have Obama lackeys saying this isn't fair, who know what he really meant.

The problem for Obama is yes we do know he really meant and it is not the BS cited above.

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Arbo said:

It's funny that Obama supporters have so often gone on and on about how smart and well educated and well spoken Obama is. Yet when he says something that was not stated clearly, they rush to his defense. If the guy is so 'good' and so 'smart', why can't he just say what he means without needing explanations of his words by the cheerleaders?

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apdst said:

You're assuming he wouldn't have done it, if not for the support of your grandparents. There's no way you can say that, with any amount of credibility.

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Masada said:

yes, I read ALL the words, so, I don't want you to accuse me of taking him out of context.

Let me explain something to you, and our ignorant President. And yes, he's ignorant when it comes to business, how they get started, and what it takes to make one successful.
While it is true that governments build roads, let me remind you that they built roads BECAUSE there were businesses that needed them. They build roads BECAUSE people are going to work. Businesses are not the result of roads and bridges, it's the exact opposite. Roads and bridges are the result of businesses, and the people they employ.

Get it straight. Teachers are the result of a society that values education, and they are PAID to do it. Schools make tons of money, BECAUSE THEY TOO ARE A BUSINESS. It takes a BUSINESS to hire that teacher.

He makes it sound as if the internet wouldn't exist without the government. Bull. It would still exist. It was the greatest invention in modern history, it would have still been developed. It existed BEFORE the government subsidized it's development. Oh, and btw, the government didn't invent the internet did they?

He has no idea what he's talking about. I didn't build my own business? That's news to me, because I don't see anyone else helping pay the bills around this office. I don't see anyone else investing 70 hours per week to increase my business. Liberals will argue, "well, if it weren't for your customers, your business wouldn't exist". True enough, but that doesn't make them responsible for my business. I provide a service and a product that people want and need. If it weren't for my business, they wouldn't get it. Or if it weren't for another business owner, they wouldn't get it. The door swings both ways Mr. President.

The reason I have customers, is because I have something the public wants. I risked a lot to start a business, and if it weren't for countless hours of hard work and smarts, the business would fail. So, don't sit there and tell me "I didn't build that". Of course I did. Ignorant Obama thinks that all a successful business requires is a bunch of people to buy something. Wrong. Or all a successful business requires is a person who had a good teacher in 8th grade. Wrong. Or all a successful business requires is a good road. Wrong. Like I said, he's ignorant. He's never owned a business, he's never been an entreprenuer, he's never experienced what it takes to start and operate a business.

Kick rocks man. Come out here in the real world where your income is earned by working and producing something. The only thing he produces is massive debt, burdensome regulations, higher taxes, federal mandates, and hot air like we've seen here. If his presidency were a business, they would have filed bankruptcy already, because I don't know of many "customers" who would buy his "products". For sale: tax increase. For sale: more regulations. For sale: trillions and trillions of dollars in new debt. Who's buying? Those people you see wasting paychecks on lottery tickets.

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Helix said:

without public infrastructure, commerce would exist, but you'd be paying local warlords instead of government, and you'd get a lot less for your money.

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Helix said:

without public infrastructure, commerce would exist, but you'd be paying local warlords instead of government, and you'd get a lot less for your money.

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Zyphlin said:

Chicken and egg, chicken and egg, chicken and egg.

Almost every individual effort is shaped in part by environmental conditions which were likely shaped in part due to individual efforts which....on and on.

As I said to a few friends on email...the funny thing is…he’s right, but he’s wrong as well. The reality is, often, success is a mixture of environment/community and the individual. Sometimes environment almost alone can spur it…sometimes the individual almost on their own can do it, but usually it’s a mix. The difference is…and it’s so interesting reading it because it’s often a great dichotomy between the two parties…is which of those two ingredients do you choose to highlight, promote, and give adulation to and which do you downplay or degrade or write off.

Obama chooses to highlight and promote the community while devaluing and downplaying the individual. Traditionally, Republicans hype up the individual while downplaying the community. What becomes interesting is which of the two arguments will win over the fickle American people this time around.

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Billy the Kid said:

I have a friend, a woman, who came from such dire proverty, I'm not talking no air conditioning proverty, I'm talking no inside bathroom and leaking roof proverty. The house would have been condemed if anyone had found them living in these conditions.

This lady and all her sisters decided they were not going to go out in the same conditions. She got a job as a drugstore clerk as soon as she could work. Graduated from HS went to work fulltime and college at night. She graduated from college after 10 years of working fulltime and going to school, that she paid for. One of the reasons it took her so long, because she is/was smart, was she worked for the USPS and while working drove her little car under a bus. She was in the hospital for 2 months in traction for multiple breaks in one leg. Took her sometime to get back on her feet, literally. She had to drop out in her senior year due to the bills and injury. She went back to finish 2 years later.

She started her own accounting business with her friend. She is doing well now due to her hard work. She works from January to April, every year, 7 days a week 12-14 hours a day. She has 5 employees and pays for their HC and a fair wage.

This lady built her business stick by stick, her own hard work and something "special" in her that drove her to succeed. Without this something "special" in her first, it wouldn't matter what the community or the govt "did", she is the reason that she succeeded.

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whysoserious said:

Sounds hard. Are you really trying to insist that no one has helped this lady get to where she is?

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Billy the Kid said:

Better question - how do you see it?

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whysoserious said:

Sounds like she pulled herself up by her bootstraps, which is great. But of course, the system helps with that. Perhaps she attended a community college for a few years, which makes things much cheaper. Or maybe she received some sort of government subsidy.

Either way, she navigated the system effectively and improved her life. I think what Obama and liberals want to do is to make it easier - or accessible - for people like her.

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Billy the Kid said:

She went to a universtiy and paid her own way through college.

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whysoserious said:

Well that wasn't very smart... but congrats to her.

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AdamT said:

There's nothing unclear about what he said ...

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