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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    You act to paralyze, to punish, and to control the people. I have no other course that is acceptable than to not work with you to those ends.
    Your hyperbole is noted. There is no such effort by anyone, really.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Your hyperbole is noted. There is no such effort by anyone, really.
    You are joking and it's very funny. The laws on the books under Obama and Bush and over much of the country before and that during that time period tell a story of less privacy, less liberty, and a basic violation of property. Much of it was by people like yourself.
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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    You are joking and it's very funny. The laws on the books under Obama and Bush and over much of the country before and that during that time period tell a story of less privacy, less liberty, and a basic violation of property. Much of it was by people like yourself.
    Nonsense. Complete and utter nonsense. But I do wish you and yours were on Bush as much Obama. You'd have a little more credence. Just a little.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    No leader can work with a political party which publicly takes the stated position of blocking every one of said leader's actions,

    That is not a reflection on Obama's leadership skills but a reflection on Republican values -- which remain, party before country.

    To the best of my knowledge when you say that a political party took a stated position of blocking every one of said leaders actions, that is simply untrue. I do remember the lead senator of the republican party saying something stupid like that, not the entire party including the leader of the house of representatives.

    So this wow is me don't blame me because I don't know how to overcome adversity seems to be a Democratic weakness. For Obama it is pat excuse, not sure what it is for his lemmings.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    From my seat, you're the one lacking in understanding.

    The Declaration of Independence states,
    "... they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men"

    The main purpose of healthcare is to preserve life and the government is instituted to secure these rights.

    Your claim could just as easily be made about the military and how it is a service provided by others, yet it too is to preserve our unalienable rights enumerated in the Declaration of Independence and secured by the government.
    Not sure if you know this but no one is turned away from health care if they need it. That is Obama's key line to sell his mandate.

    You need to do a better job of remembering the talking points before writing nonsense on this site.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    From my seat, you're the one lacking in understanding.

    The Declaration of Independence states,
    "... they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men"

    The main purpose of healthcare is to preserve life and the government is instituted to secure these rights.

    Your claim could just as easily be made about the military and how it is a service provided by others, yet it too is to preserve our unalienable rights enumerated in the Declaration of Independence and secured by the government.
    What? You can not see a difference in the U.S. military, 100% gov't owned and opperated and placing UNFUNDED mandates upon the "private" lives of civilian medical care providers? What if the gov't, instead of issuing SNAP funds, simply said that those with SNAP cards must be GIVEN FREE food from any "private" establishment that they choose to visit? Paying solidiers is FAR different than mandating that they serve without pay or benefits, unless others CHOOSE to pay them. PPACA is an attempt to give some citizens FREE (or greatly subsidized) medical care services that OTHER citizens must pay MORE for. Medical care is not being "reformed" under PPACA, it is simply being subsidized and controlled by federal gov't mandate. Under PPACA a medical care provider may still charge cash or insurance bearing "customers" MORE than the federl gov't offers as payment for the chosen ones, that it pays either some or NONE of the cost of that SAME service. If Medicaid patient is billed $100 and others are billed $200 for the SAME treatment, is that LEGAL, as "equal protection" under the law? Open and honest gov't would require disclosure of ACTUAL billing for all medical care treatment given.
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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    i think obama is the truth, congress wont let him execute his plan to restore the country. republican media is brainwashing the nation, the only thing they do is skew obamas message, republicans are only for them selves and big buisness and look how that has worked out we are still suffering from it and the bush administration and that is the cold hard truth, and if u follow jesus and the good lord u know the truth sets u free and all real people should realize that

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Nonsense. Complete and utter nonsense. But I do wish you and yours were on Bush as much Obama. You'd have a little more credence. Just a little.
    I spend my efforts on those in office that did nothing to end the policies but instead add to them and lengthen their stay.
    Last edited by Henrin; 07-22-12 at 09:28 PM.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I spend my efforts on those in office that did nothing to end the policies but instead add to them and length their stay.
    Perhaps you just lost. It happens. It'll happen again. To all of us. But quiting just makes you a quiter.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Perhaps you just lost. It happens. It'll happen again. To all of us. But quiting just makes you a quiter.
    What did I lose? The people come and go and the policies stay long after they leave and die. My focus is the policies themselves and the people that are in office right now. People of yesterday are where they are, but the policies are here right now. I don't spend my time talking of bush any longer as I know the proper order of things and I know my fight is on the policies.

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