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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Romulus View Post
    I don't know, did you?
    Yes, I did. I'm waiting for an answer.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Well, he apparently believes there's a non-trivial number of his opponents who argue against having any government at all, paying any taxes at all, and/or are against the basic functions of government, like police, courts, basic infrastructure, etc., in order to have said all this.

    That, or he knows there isn't, and he's swatting intentionally at strawmen.

    So, given his very premise, it IS ignorance, or it's dishonesty.
    That is funny -- you erecting an enormous strawman to accuse the president of same.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    It truly is astounding that people still cling to such feeble and disproven comments to debase the President. Even more amazing would be the self imposed projected ignorance these comments paint. One can assume either pure ignorance, or something far worse.
    I only "cling" to guns and agnosticism. Obama's lack of leadership skills are observable and evidenced by his vacillation during crises such as the Gulf oil spill, uprising in Iran, the failed surge in Afghanistan, our looming debt crises, the EUs looming debt crises, ICBM and nuclear development in Iran and N. Korea, and Hillary's snuke among many many others. His lack of intellectual prowess is exhibited when he makes snobbish remarks (such as the subject of this thread) that should only be uttered under hushed tones in the living room of a humanities professors and unrepentant Marxist terrorists (Ayers reference).

    The number one issue right now?

    Unemployment.

    What has Obama done about it?

    Ignored His Own Jobs Council For Six Months

    I rest my case.
    Last edited by Romulus; 07-21-12 at 05:05 PM.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Yes, I did. I'm waiting for an answer.
    Sorry, could you give me a hint what the question was?

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    That is funny -- you erecting an enormous strawman to accuse the president of same.
    And what strawman is that?

    What's your estimation as to why he felt the need to address the point? (For the umpteenth time, along with others, such as Elizabeth Warren.)
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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Romulus View Post
    You can obfuscate Obama's thesis all you want, we know he is no Adam Smith or F.A. Hayek. He's a Keynesian with socialist tendencies whose epistemology has never been challenged within his academic bubble.
    In many ways Adam Smith would be considered a socialist today (or at least by the American definition of socialism).

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Romulus View Post
    I only "cling" to guns and agnosticism. Obama's lack of leadership skills are observable and evidenced by his vacillation during crises such as the Gulf oil spill, uprising in Iran, the failed surge in Afghanistan, our looming debt crises, the EUs looming debt crises, ICBM and nuclear development in Iran and N. Korea, and Hillary's snuke among many many others. His lack of intellectual prowess is exhibited when he makes snobbish remarks (such as the subject of this thread) that should only be uttered under hushed tones in the living room of a humanities professors and unrepentant Marxist terrorists (Ayers reference).

    The number one issue right now?

    Unemployment.

    What has Obama done about it?

    Ignored His Own Jobs Council For Six Months

    I rest my case.
    First off...that was a rather pathetic dodge, or a very poorly veiled tail between the legs bow out.

    You stated this " He's a Keynesian with socialist tendencies whose epistemology has never been challenged within his academic bubble. "

    I replied with this: " It truly is astounding that people still cling to such feeble and disproven comments to debase the President. Even more amazing would be the self imposed projected ignorance these comments paint. One can assume either pure ignorance, or something far worse."

    So you completely change subjects, and fall back to a well rehearsed (and unprovable)...But Obama Hasn't Fixed Everything, and we would all be better off IF he had done xxxx.

    Just admit you made a poor post, and we can debate your next one.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Romulus View Post
    I only "cling" to guns and agnosticism. Obama's lack of leadership skills are observable and evidenced by his vacillation during crises such as the Gulf oil spill, uprising in Iran, the failed surge in Afghanistan, our looming debt crises, the EUs looming debt crises, ICBM and nuclear development in Iran and N. Korea, and Hillary's snuke among many many others. His lack of intellectual prowess is exhibited when he makes snobbish remarks (such as the subject of this thread) that should only be uttered under hushed tones in the living room of a humanities professors and unrepentant Marxist terrorists (Ayers reference).

    The number one issue right now?

    Unemployment.

    What has Obama done about it?

    Ignored His Own Jobs Council For Six Months

    I rest my case.
    I love how you sweepingly list some of the most complicated, long-standing and entrenched issues in the world today and then assume that Obama can just wag around a little leadership and the problems will go away. I'm afraid these issues are not as easily solved as you are implying.
    Also-please tell me, exactly, why you believe Obama's remarks to be Marxist? I would like some actual quotes from the speech, please, not just your word for it!

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by zeusomally View Post
    I love how you sweepingly list some of the most complicated, long-standing and entrenched issues in the world today and then assume that Obama can just wag around a little leadership and the problems will go away. I'm afraid these issues are not as easily solved as you are implying.
    Also-please tell me, exactly, why you believe Obama's remarks to be Marxist? I would like some actual quotes from the speech, please, not just your word for it!
    when he said "you did not build that" , what was to follow that comment? logically the next step would be: since you did not build it, you are not entitled to the profits and must share them with the rest of us. Obama is a marxist redistributionist. Its quite obvious in his demonization of the rich and successful.
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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

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