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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    So, then you're acknowledging that he didn't word it in the best way then?
    I can't imagine anyone thinking it was well worded. Not being spoken well doesn't change the sentiment, though.
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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    so you acknowledge that the silly claim that "Obama says business-owners didn't create their businesses", is a stupid lie?
    I don't. Admit it because it happens to all of us: Obama was swept away by his own rhetoric and went too far. His words were, "If you’ve got a business. you didn’t build that. “Somebody else made that happen.”

    These are his words--not a lie and not a silly claim. I understand the context argument, but mind-reading. I'm a word-reader and listener. Whatever the President's intent, he said what he said. Repeating what he said isn't a lie or silly claim...nor is believing that he unintentionally revealed far more about his own real views than he intended to.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    I can't imagine anyone thinking it was well worded. Not being spoken well doesn't change the sentiment, though.
    Miswording something can sure change it's meaning. I think if you want the honest message he's trying to get across, you should read where he starts with. "The point is this". That seems to be a good indicator of the overall message.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    Miswording something can sure change it's meaning. I think if you want the honest message he's trying to get across, you should read where he starts with. "The point is this". That seems to be a good indicator of the overall message.
    and ignore the parts you wish he hadn't said?

    Let me ask you this: is Govt equally responsible for the failure of businesses? Further, what in the President's past makes him understand what make's businesses succeed or fail? The first executive spot he's ever help was President....
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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    and ignore the parts you wish he hadn't said?
    No, that's not a good idea. But, it's also not a good idea to take 4 words from a speech, and try to say what he meant by it.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    No, that's not a good idea. But, it's also not a good idea to take 4 words from a speech, and try to say what he meant by it.
    That's not what I'm doing.

    "If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen."

    You can count them, if you want to. I may be simple, but I don't think that's 4.
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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    That's not what I'm doing.

    "If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen."

    You can count them, if you want to. I may be simple, but I don't think that's 4.
    I was going with the "you didn't build that". But, you're stepping away from my point.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    I was going with the "you didn't build that". But, you're stepping away from my point.
    No, you're cherry-picking.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]



    Look at the disdain in his words when he says, "You didn't build that!"
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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    No, you're cherry-picking.
    Cause I'm looking at the overall message of his speech?

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