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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Question. How do you commute to work each day?
    How did one commute to work in 1692?
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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    How did one commute to work in 1692?
    On roads? Oh ****s..

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Masada View Post
    "If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen". There's his quote. He also said, "Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive."

    Yes, that "somebody" was another business owner who paid taxes, or another private individual who paid taxes. So, ya, he's right. "Somebody" did help me build my business. It was another business owner, and another private tax payer. Not his precious federal government. And those roads and bridges were built for EVERYONE, not just the business owners. You drive on roads dont you? Do you own a business? You went to school too right? Do you own a business?

    Schools and roads weren't built just for business owners. They were built for everyone. And I pay for them more than a person who doesn't own a business. That's why I say that business owners are even MORE responsible for those roads and bridges than any one else. That's just a fact.
    Did you build the building that your business is in? Did you build the roads that bring the customers to your business? Did you build the street lights and electrical power that you depend on to run your business? Did you build the water plant and the pipes that supplies the water to your business? Do you own the trucking company or build the railroads and airplanes that brings supplies to your business? Did you teach all your employees how to read and do math? Do you own the newspapers or postal service that you advertise your business in? If no to any of those answers then you did not build your business alone.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Did you build the building that your business is in? Did you build the roads that bring the customers to your business? Did you build the street lights and electrical power that you depend on to run your business? Did you build the water plant and the pipes that supplies the water to your business? Do you own the trucking company or build the railroads and airplanes that brings supplies to your business? Did you teach all your employees how to read and do math? Do you own the newspapers or postal service that you advertise your business in? If no to any of those answers then you did not build your business alone.
    Did anyone care to notice anything about this line of reasoning yet? That really all it is doing is missing the point in amazing fashion to say something pointless that we all learned before we could walk all they could claim a say in others property. If I have an arrangement with you and do me a service and you complete that service our workings are over and in no way shape or form does that warrant you to more of what is mine. We are done with each other at that point, so move along little boys and girls and get the **** out of my pocket. The government couldn't survive without my business and let little Obama there not forget that if this is really the point he wants to make. He should watch his fights more closely in the future or else I have no choice but to call him on his threats. Why do people that want oppose their will always need an enemy? Business is just the new enemy for useless authoritarians. Though I guess its not new since its going on for 100+ plus by now.
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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    On roads? Oh ****s..
    Made by whom?
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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    How did one commute to work in 1692?
    Even back in 1692 the gubbamint built the roads.....


    "The need for improving roads to better serve the social and economic life of the colony was among the matters facing members of the House of Burgesses as they met in Jamestown in September 1632.

    Before adjournment, they had passed the first highway legislation in American history, an act providing, in the language of the day, that, "Highwayes shall be layd in such convenient places as are requisite accordinge as the Governor and Counsell or the commissioners for the monthlie corts shall appoynt, or accordinge as the parishioners of every parish shall agree."

    The first legislation also required each man in the colony to work on the roads a given number of days each year, a custom dating at least from the feudal period of the Middle Ages in England, or to pay another to work in his place. This labor law, to remain in effect for more than 250 years, provided the main source of workers for road and bridge construction.

    Twenty-five years later, probably in March 1657, the colony's basic road law was broadened to provide "that surveyors of highwaise and maintenance for bridges be yearly kept and appointed in each countie cort respectively, and that all generall wayes from county to county and all churchwaies to be laied out and cleered yearly as each countie cort shall think fitt, needful and convenient, respect being had to the course used in England to that end."

    In 1661, the surveyors were empowered to select locations for roads, choosing "the most convenient wayes to Church, to the Court, to James Towne, and from County to County."

    By the end of the 17th century, many miles of primitive roads threaded throughout Tidewater Virginia. The colony's population had reached 70,000. While horseback was the most frequent means of overland travel, horse-drawn carts became more numerous, and some carriages and coaches gradually appeared.

    In 1705, the legislature passed a new road act providing for "making, clearing, and repairing the highways and for clearing the rivers and creeks... for the more convenient traveling and carriage, by land, of tobaccos merchandise, or other things within this dominion . . . "

    The new road act provided for further extension of the road system and required that the roads "be kept well cleared from woods and bushes, and the roots well grubbed up, at least thirty feet broad." The new law also provided for skilled labor to erect bridges larger than could be built by the local surveyors, and when such a bridge was to cross a county line, its cost would be divided "proportionable to the number of tithables in each county." ...."
    Early history of Virginia roads

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Even back in 1692 the gubbamint built the roads.....


    "The need for improving roads to better serve the social and economic life of the colony was among the matters facing members of the House of Burgesses as they met in Jamestown in September 1632.

    Before adjournment, they had passed the first highway legislation in American history, an act providing, in the language of the day, that, "Highwayes shall be layd in such convenient places as are requisite accordinge as the Governor and Counsell or the commissioners for the monthlie corts shall appoynt, or accordinge as the parishioners of every parish shall agree."

    The first legislation also required each man in the colony to work on the roads a given number of days each year, a custom dating at least from the feudal period of the Middle Ages in England, or to pay another to work in his place. This labor law, to remain in effect for more than 250 years, provided the main source of workers for road and bridge construction.

    Twenty-five years later, probably in March 1657, the colony's basic road law was broadened to provide "that surveyors of highwaise and maintenance for bridges be yearly kept and appointed in each countie cort respectively, and that all generall wayes from county to county and all churchwaies to be laied out and cleered yearly as each countie cort shall think fitt, needful and convenient, respect being had to the course used in England to that end."

    In 1661, the surveyors were empowered to select locations for roads, choosing "the most convenient wayes to Church, to the Court, to James Towne, and from County to County."

    By the end of the 17th century, many miles of primitive roads threaded throughout Tidewater Virginia. The colony's population had reached 70,000. While horseback was the most frequent means of overland travel, horse-drawn carts became more numerous, and some carriages and coaches gradually appeared.

    In 1705, the legislature passed a new road act providing for "making, clearing, and repairing the highways and for clearing the rivers and creeks... for the more convenient traveling and carriage, by land, of tobaccos merchandise, or other things within this dominion . . . "

    The new road act provided for further extension of the road system and required that the roads "be kept well cleared from woods and bushes, and the roots well grubbed up, at least thirty feet broad." The new law also provided for skilled labor to erect bridges larger than could be built by the local surveyors, and when such a bridge was to cross a county line, its cost would be divided "proportionable to the number of tithables in each county." ...."
    Early history of Virginia roads
    Major roads perhaps, but the average roads where little more than well traveled tracks and the spaces between buildings. Furthermore, there were not roads initially in the west, yet the western expansion happened anyways. The highway system was a major benefit to the nation, however, it didn't exist until the 1950s. Businesses existed long before then.
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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Made by whom?
    Depends, but I think its humorous that liberals put their teeth into roads like the government HAS to build them.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Depends, but I think its humorous that liberals put their teeth into roads like the government HAS to build them.
    Yeah....btw...the developer that built my neighborhood also built our roads. Businessman as he was...
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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Did anyone care to notice anything about this line of reasoning yet? That really all it is doing is missing the point in amazing fashion to say something pointless that we all learned before we could walk all they could claim a say in others property. If I have an arrangement with you and do me a service and you complete that service our workings are over and in no way shape or form does that warrant you to more of what is mine. We are done with each other at that point, so move along little boys and girls and get the **** out of my pocket. The government couldn't survive without my business and let little Obama there not forget that if this is really the point he wants to make. He should watch his fights more closely in the future or else I have no choice but to call him on his threats. Why do people that want oppose their will always need an enemy? Business is just the new enemy for useless authoritarians. Though I guess its not new since its going on for 100+ plus by now.
    If I was the only one that could provide that service for you would you be telling me to run along? I don't think you would especially if your business depended on my service.

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