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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Guess he should have known he was misrepresenting the individual mandate when he said it wasn't a tax then.
    which of course has NOTHING to do with this thread.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    no, that is his quote taken totally out of context.

    he was talking about building bridges & roads, not building businesses.
    For argument's sake, I'll say you're right about that. But then again, you are still WRONG, just like the Manchild President. Now you are saying that government is responsible for building roads and bridges!

    lol....that's incorrect too! The government doesn't create a single thing unless they extract money from private businesses and individuals TO PAY FOR ROADS AND BRIDGES! The government didn't create anything that produced wealth so they could fund the building of roads and bridges. THEY TAXED A BUSINESS AND AN INDIVIDUAL FIRST in order to build roads and bridges. It's the private sector which is responsible for it all, including HIS very own paycheck.

    Get this through your ignorant skull: Government cannot spend a single dime unless it FIRST extracts money from the private sector (businesses and individuals) via taxes. So, who's responsible for building the roads and bridges???? OTHER BUSINESSES AND INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE PAYING TAXES!!!!

    Geez, when are you going to learn that government produces NOTHING???? What do they produce? What does the government produce which makes a profit? Without a profit, how could they build roads and bridges? Oh, that's right, TAXES. WE pay for those things, therefore, WE are responsible for them. Not the government.

    He's ignorant, just like you.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    no, that is his quote taken totally out of context.

    he was talking about building bridges & roads, not building businesses.
    It wasn't taken at all out of context. Exaggerated....but well within context.
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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    which of course has NOTHING to do with this thread.
    It's got plenty to do with your comment though.
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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    It wasn't taken at all out of context....
    sure it was.

    Obama was talking abaout building bridges & roads, not accusing business-owners of not creating their businesses.

    suggesting such is sad & pathetic.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Masada View Post
    Just to reiterate, good roads were the result of successful businesses, not the other way around.
    Go check out some of the incredible highway systems in Africa and get back to me on this.

    Modern society couldn't even function without good roads. That is why it's so scary that merely maintaining our infrastructure has become a political issue.
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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    was that really his argument?
    Yep. It has been for MONTHS.
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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Yep. It has been for MONTHS.
    im talking about this specific speech.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    The bottom line is that ALL of Obama's nonsense is simply to justify higher taxes on "the rich". His BASIC argument is that businesses (and the rich) somehow get more advantage from infrastructure, than any "middle class" folks, and thus should pay WAY more for it.
    We do pay way more for it. Through property taxes, income taxes, and local sales taxes. I promise you this, in the state where I live, property tax is used to fund county roads and bridges, as well as help fund teacher's salaries. So, a person who own's property (a business), pays way more in taxes than a person working down at the grocery store for 8 bucks and hour and doesn't own property.

    My business also pays taxes on profits too, which go to pay teachers. So, if it weren't for successful businesses, who are making profits, what do you think teachers would get paid? People who do not pay these taxes STILL get the benefits of roads and public schools, but they pay little to nothing for the services. The services are heavily financed off the backs of successful businesses. Now, anyone who has ever owned a business KNOWS what you are paying taxes on, and for. Which is why I KNOW Obama and Thunder are simply IGNORANT. They have never owned a business, and have no idea what business owners pay taxes on, or what those taxes go to fund.

    So, you wanna talk about roads and bridges, let me be more clear Thunder, business owners are more responsible for building those than anyone else too. Because we pay property taxes, higher income taxes, and higher sales taxes (if you sell a product). We also pay HALF of our employees Social Security Taxes. We also pay for their health insurance premiums. We also pay them a wage or salary. The government doesn't do that for me. I DO IT.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Go check out some of the incredible highway systems in Africa and get back to me on this.

    Modern society couldn't even function without good roads. That is why it's so scary that merely maintaining our infrastructure has become a political issue.
    Who built the roads there? The government?

    Hmmmmm.....where did the government get the money to build those roads?

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