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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by johnny_rebson View Post
    But....if we got rid of the minimum wage law........
    and the 40-hour work week.

    and OSHA regulations.

    and fire-escapes.

    and child-labor laws.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Even if we paid minimum wage, Chinese and other foreign goods would still be much less expensive than ours.

    true far less government imposed costs

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    and the 40-hour work week.

    and OSHA regulations.

    and fire-escapes.

    and child-labor laws.

    given competition to our american made goods don't have those sort of costs what is your solution?

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I have no clue what you are blathering about. Your master and his protege-Fauxhchontas-both try to justify taxing the already overtaxed successful by claiming that their success is due to a government they already heavily fund
    Let me be clear then since it went about a mile over your head the first time: what you do, time after time after time, in post after post after post, in thread after thread after thread, is make pompous personal pontifications about your own self imposed belief system and you attempt to support these statements simply by demonizing anyone who takes a different position. You take their position and twist it. You take their position and pervert it. You take their position and exaggerate it beyond all normal recognition until it is a cartoon caricature of what they actually said.

    It is the quintessential strawman that you battle in post after post after post.

    Your constant insulting reference to progressives having MASTERS that they must obey is a perfect example. Nobody here has a master unless its you following the orders of right wing thought molders. Do you?

    But your use of the word MASTERS is an ad hominem attack that perverts and twists what somebody really believes and what motivates their post.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by johnny_rebson View Post
    But....if we got rid of the minimum wage law........
    People couldn't make enough to live.
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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    and the 40-hour work week.

    and OSHA regulations.

    and fire-escapes.

    and child-labor laws.
    Who needs that ****?



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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Let me be clear then since it went about a mile over your head the first time: what you do, time after time after time, in post after post after post, in thread after thread after thread, is make pompous personal pontifications about your own self imposed belief system and you attempt to support these statements simply by demonizing anyone who takes a different position. You take their position and twist it. You take their position and pervert it. You take their position and exaggerate it beyond all normal recognition until it is a cartoon caricature of what they actually said.

    It is the quintessential strawman that you battle in post after post after post.

    Your constant insulting reference to progressives having MASTERS that they must obey is a perfect example. Nobody here has a master unless its you following the orders of right wing thought molders. Do you?

    But your use of the word MASTERS is an ad hominem attack that perverts and twists what somebody really believes and what motivates their post.

    Clear now?
    rant noted and rejected as being specious.

    the left does have masters. the left worships more government and more governmental control

    and yes you constantly state that the government needs more of our money

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    and the 40-hour work week.

    and OSHA regulations.

    and fire-escapes.

    and child-labor laws.
    So, are you insinuating that *if* we got rid of those laws, businesses would just automatically go back to employing children, forcing inhumane work-week hours, and dangerous conditions? How exactly do you think that'd go over?

    Let's say...oh, I dunno....Apple decided to employ 10-year olds, and forced them to work 60 hours a week at $1.00 an hour. Would you buy Apple products knowing that? Know anyone who would? Know anyone who'd actually continue working under those conditions? Know anyone who'd apply for such a job? Think that company would stay in business, if no one wanted to work for them?

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by Velvet Elvis View Post
    So, are you insinuating that *if* we got rid of those laws, businesses would just automatically go back to employing children, forcing inhumane work-week hours, and dangerous conditions? How exactly do you think that'd go over? Let's say...oh, I dunno....Apple decided to employ 10-year olds, and forced them to work 60 hours a week at $1.00 an hour. Would you buy Apple products knowing that? Know anyone who would? Know anyone who'd actually continue working under those conditions? Know anyone who'd apply for such a job? Think that company would stay in business, if no one wanted to work for them?
    Are you saying they wouldn't? Many of our businesses do it openly in other countries... why wouldn't they do it here if it was legal?
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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    rant noted and rejected as being specious.

    the left does have masters. the left worships more government and more governmental control

    and yes you constantly state that the government needs more of our money
    Thank you for proving my point. You make a most excellent witness against yourself. In a post defending your hyperbolic insulting use of the term MASTERS you go an use it yet again. Its bordering on uncontrollable. Amazing.

    It is also plain that when somebody takes you to the woodshed and destroys you with a post you always describe it as a rant, use your favorite word SPECIOUS and are impotent to refute it.
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