Page 33 of 149 FirstFirst ... 2331323334354383133 ... LastLast
Results 321 to 330 of 1482

Thread: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

  1. #321
    Guru

    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Last Seen
    04-14-17 @ 01:28 AM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    4,237

    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    What crime did Romney commit Inspector Clouseau?



    Yea? What's the name of your business?

    Explain to me how Government helps businesses with the money it confiscates from said businesses. You are aware that Government doesn't create wealth right? All the Feds do is print, borrow, and spend money.

    If all a business needs is a road to be successful, which was built by private businesses contracted by Government, then why isn't every business successful that has access to a road? You're not a business owner IMO. What Obama said (yes libs in its entire context) is completely foreign to anyone who ever built and ran a successful business. It's Collectivist propaganda designed to make people feel ashamed of their success.
    I didn't say Romney committed a crime. How's the caffeine intake?

  2. #322
    Sage
    Boo Radley's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Last Seen
    11-22-17 @ 04:22 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    36,858

    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    The "you didn't build that" premise is built upon the foundation of the "rugged individulalism never worked" premise. If you are an American with a reasonable sense of history, you generally know what the concept of rugged individualism is all about. We all know it never was about one man building the Empire State Building alone beam by beam or brick by brick. It is about the people with visions showing the guts to take on the risk to make their dreams come true as much as liberty allows. And anyone who says it never worked, is full of ****. The perponderance of evidence is overwhelming that it worked. Has anyone ever heard the term Yankee ingenuity or American ingenuity?
    I don't buy that. What you're speaking to is American mythology, which is quite different than actual fact. We built forts and communities back then as well as now. The articles of Confederation failed because the federal government was strong enough, and business needed more to succeed. A lot of wealth was built on backs of slaves early on. So, while few to none remove the individual from the equation, because individal vision goes a long way, that vision almost always needs others to reach fulfillment.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

  3. #323
    Sage
    Moot's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Utah
    Last Seen
    Today @ 03:31 AM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    27,460

    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Thank you for agreeing with my point.
    I wish did, but I didn't.

    A business that uses and depends on paper in order to be successful, depends on other people to log and mill the trees and railroads to transport the trees and paper companies to make the trees into paper and trucks and roads to transport the paper to the business. That's a lot of people that helped to make that one business do it's thing to be successful. Like Obama said, no one gets successful all by themselves.

  4. #324
    Sage

    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:09 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    89,739

    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Another one that sees my point. See? We can agree!
    What is it you think we are agreeing upon?
    __________________________________________________ _
    There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.... John Rogers

  5. #325
    Sage

    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:09 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    89,739

    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Unfortunately for Obama, we can read between the lines.
    Sadly for the right wing that is all you seem to do. You skip the actual words and content and just plug in what you want to plug in because you want to believe what you want to believe.
    __________________________________________________ _
    There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.... John Rogers

  6. #326
    Professor
    Billy the Kid's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Last Seen
    05-28-13 @ 02:29 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    2,449

    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    I wish did, but I didn't.

    A business that uses and depends on paper in order to be successful, depends on other people to log and mill the trees and railroads to transport the trees and paper companies to make the trees into paper and trucks and roads to transport the paper to the business. That's a lot of people that helped to make that one business do it's thing to be successful. Like Obama said, no one gets successful all by themselves.

    Your "business depends on other businesses" scenerio sounds about right. It's called customer and consumer. The paper using business needs paper. The tree cutting company needs someone to sell to; thus the mill that takes the tree and make the tree into pulp. The pulp is sold to a paper making company who sends it finished product to a Staples who sells to the "business who needs paper.

  7. #327
    Guru

    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Last Seen
    04-14-17 @ 01:28 AM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    4,237

    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    I wish did, but I didn't.

    A business that uses and depends on paper in order to be successful, depends on other people to log and mill the trees and railroads to transport the trees and paper companies to make the trees into paper and trucks and roads to transport the paper to the business. That's a lot of people that helped to make that one business do it's thing to be successful. Like Obama said, no one gets successful all by themselves.
    I have a small residential construction biz and I cannot even begin to list the different materials I need but here is some off the top of my head:

    nails
    sheetrock
    lumber in various forms
    steel screws
    wood screws
    concrete screws
    construction paper
    three different kinds of tape
    cleaning supplies
    primer for various surfaces
    vinyl siding
    plywood
    roof shingles
    paints and stains for numerous applications
    invoices and other typical office supplies
    cell phone
    computer
    vehicle
    pressure washer
    drills of various kinds
    saw of various kinds
    extension cords
    ladders
    etc

    If I had to come up with those products myself.....goodness...

    I rather despise other biz owners who try to say they did it all themselves because it is unbelievably selfish. Without employees I could not have the jobs done on time. Without the clients I wouldn't have the projects to employ people.

    I spend a ton of time behind the scenes so yes I am working more than the people working for me but I still could not do it without them and I pay them on a base scale + performance so they have an honest incentive to work hard knowing I'm not keeping all the money no matter how hard they work.

  8. #328
    Sage


    MaggieD's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Chicago Area
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    43,243
    Blog Entries
    43

    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Do you know the difference between somebody GIVING you something and you working cooperatively with others so that their is mutual benefit and gain? That is a concept that we try to teach small children. It is sad that some on the far right never learned this or forgot the lesson as they aged.
    This statement, as it stands alone here, is a hoot!!!

    And to answer it, "Yes, the entire right side of the aisle has understood this for decades."
    The devil whispered in my ear, "You cannot withstand the storm." I whispered back, "I am ​the storm."

  9. #329
    Sage
    Moot's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Utah
    Last Seen
    Today @ 03:31 AM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    27,460

    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy the Kid View Post
    Your "business depends on other businesses" scenerio sounds about right. It's called customer and consumer. The paper using business needs paper. The tree cutting company needs someone to sell to; thus the mill that takes the tree and make the tree into pulp. The pulp is sold to a paper making company who sends it finished product to a Staples who sells to the "business who needs paper.
    By Jov, I think you've got it.

  10. #330
    Sage
    Boo Radley's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Last Seen
    11-22-17 @ 04:22 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    36,858

    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    This statement, as it stands alone here, is a hoot!!!

    And to answer it, "Yes, the entire right side of the aisle has understood this for decades."
    Than parisan hyperbole and misrepresentations aside, we're all supportive of the same thing. You and Haymarket, as well Moot and Billy the Kid, show both sides see the same thing. Only political ideology and misrepresentations divide us.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •