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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy the Kid View Post
    Wasn't it President Eisenhower that established this program?
    Well, the interstate system is named after him.
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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy the Kid View Post
    Wasn't it President Eisenhower that established this program?
    He was given credit for it, but the initial designs for it were started a couple of decades before he was president.
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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    He was given credit for it, but the initial designs for it were started a couple of decades before he was president.
    I guess I could have looked it up, just a little busy. But thanks for the feedback.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by kamikaze483 View Post
    From the letters I am getting from the government telling me exactly what to do, how, and when.
    If you wrap your mailbox in tin foil the letters will probably stop.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy the Kid View Post
    Wasn't it President Eisenhower that established this program?

    Too bad there isn't an Eisenhower to vote for now.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    If you wrap your mailbox in tin foil the letters will probably stop.
    what about the fact the government can take control of my private phone with Verizon service?

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by kamikaze483 View Post
    The Declaration of Independence.

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    Aren't the polls interesting? I don't represent 311 million, but apparently I represent 55% of them, at least on this one issue.

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    First, I have no idea what a poll on the health care law has to do with my post or your previous comments.

    Second, I looked at your link. Only 41% of those expressed strong support to repeal the law as it stands today. And its Rasmussen which means you can take five points right off the conservative leaning end of it. Other polls - several which have been discussed in other threads right here - point to a majority in support of some of the provisions of the law and a minority in favor out outright total repeal of it.

    Ask people if they support specific provisions of the Health Care law such as no barring of previous conditions, extending your kids to age 26 on your policy and no lifetime limits on benefits and see what you get.

    Since this has become a cause celebre of the right, poll numbers on this are highly politicized depending on how the question is asked.

    But again, this has NOTHING to do with my previous post. NOTHING.

    As to the Declaration of Independence - its a nice little birth announcement. No more - no less. It means nothing beyond that.
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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy the Kid View Post
    Why is that not smart?

    Not sucking on the public teat makes one less dependent on the public teat and thus less beholden to those tho supply the public teat with milk-democrat politicians

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by kamikaze483 View Post
    First of all, Obama didn't make any reference to the consumer. He was saying that the businesses couldn't have gotten where they are without government. Of course businesses need consumers, bu consumers didn't "build the business." They don't even create the demand. Marketing and a damned good product or service creates the demand- neither of which can occur without the hard work of the business owner.
    An entrepreneur can design and implement the best marketing plan on Planet Earth. He can have what he thinks is the best widget on Planet Earth. Without consumers who can afford it and agree with him? He's got jack****. Consumers build a business with their decision enmass to consume. Consumers create demand. I don't think we disagree that much. But that statement? Totally wrong.
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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    The government is the only reason apdst had any business at all, because it was the government that did the un-Libertarian thing of shielding offshore drillers from liability; without that shield, there would be no offshore drilling at all, and hence, no need for anyone like apdst to service the rigs.

    In a Libertarian system, there would be no government shielding anyone from liability. And that's the system I want. And, of course, in such a system, apdst would have no business since there would be no offshore drilling in such a system.

    Bottom line: conservatives like apdst could not survive in a Libertarian (free market) environment. Businesses like his can only survive in a non-free market system where government steps in to shield firms from liability.
    What left wing rag did you read that in?

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