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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Consumers don't frequent a business just to be nice. They have a demand for a good, or service and that business owner meets that demand.

    Consumers don't spend money for the hell of it.

    Employees don't work for free.

    Banks want their money back, with interest.

    And, those businesses did just as much to pay for all that infrastructure as anyone else.
    More. Plus, who do people think produced the materials and goods used for the infrastructure, got it to location? Sure wasn't the government.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    even without such a ban, the oil cos. that engage in offshore drilling would never be in business if they were legally obligated to fully compensate every single business/individual affected by their spills,

    and in a truly free-enterprise (deregulated) system, they would.

    But the GOP has fortunately worked furiously to enact bills that shield companies from the liabilities of their spills, forcing taxpayers to pay for them instead. Hence, those offshore drilling cos., and all related businesses (including those that service the rigs) are only in business because the federal government has regulated the system in their favor.

    Which means, your business only exists because of (the aforementioned) federal regulation forcing taxpayers to pick up the costs from spills, i. e. because the government has enacted laws that interfere with the market to tilt the playing field in your favor. So thank the feds for your livelihood, and stop bitching.
    What are you even talkinh about? My business FAILED because of government regulation? I'm supposed thank the government for putting me out of business? What screwed up world do you live in?

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What are you even talkinh about? My business FAILED because of government regulation? I'm supposed thank the government for putting me out of business? What screwed up world do you live in?
    You wouldn't have had any business at all ever if it weren't for the government interfering in the market to shield offshore drillers from spill liability.

    So thank the government for your livelihood, and quit complaining.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    You wouldn't have had any business at all ever if it weren't for the government interfering in the market to shield offshore drillers from spill liability.

    So thank the government for your livelihood, and quit complaining.
    What are you even talkimg about? This makes no aense...lol!

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    "Community/environment" doesn't speak just to government.
    Maybe. But Obama did.
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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What are you even talkimg about? This makes no aense...lol!
    That's because you're a Conservative.

    Conservatives don't understand economics. That's why they have to depend on the government to survive and also blame the government whenever their businesses fail.
    Last edited by solletica; 07-17-12 at 03:12 PM.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    That's because you're a Conservative.

    Conservatives don't understand economics. That's why they have to depend on the government to survive and also blame the government whenever their businesses fail.
    Oh, is that it?...lol!

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Oh, is that it?...lol!
    Absolutely.

    The day there's a conservative who doesn't blame the government for his job woes and/or depend on the government is the day the temperature of Hell reaches 32 F or John Boehner has an erection (intellectually or physically).

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    You wouldn't have had any business at all ever if it weren't for the government interfering in the market to shield offshore drillers from spill liability.

    So thank the government for your livelihood, and quit complaining.
    This was very unlibertarian of you. We don't thank the government for our livelihoods. We feel that we are solely responsble for our own livelihoods or lack thereof. We strive NOT to be dependent on government or on other people for our sustenance.

    Perhaps you should adjust your lean somewhere to the left of liberal.
    "We need to ask some very tough questions of the senator from Illinois. It's not enough to be black, it's not enough to be articulate, it's not enough to be eloquent and a media darling. The only question will be how deaf an ear, or how blind an eye will people turn in order to turn a frog into a prince." -Eddie Huff

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