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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Some more "That's".... You, big business, didn't build.








    Don't get me wrong, private industry is engine that runs this country. But the Federal Government is the battery and taxes are the alternator.
    And, where do the taxes come from?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And, where do the taxes come from?
    Citzens. Nearly all of which pay some sort of tax.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Citzens. Nearly all of which pay some sort of tax.
    And who creates businesses? The gov't or these tax-paying citizens?

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    And who creates businesses? The gov't or these tax-paying citizens?
    Creates? Individuals. But we also do things together, just as Obama said, and these things also help business (help versus create-- two very different words with two very different meanings and aplications).

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Citzens. Nearly all of which pay some sort of tax.
    Yes!

    THEY built THAT -- Government just provided the organization and logistics--invested the revenue, sold the bonds etc.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by Masada View Post
    lol....4.5 million jobs created in the private sector eh? That's not enough to keep up with the rate people are entering the workforce age.
    Not sure how many jobs you think need to be generated each month to keep up with population growth, but the number is about 150,000. 4 million jobs over the last 2 years equals 150,000 jobs per month and that is enough to keep up with population growth.

    Quote Originally Posted by Masada View Post
    I would like to see how the admin comes up with 4.5 million new jobs anyway. I call BS on that number.
    I don't know how they came up with that number, but the private sector has grown by 4 million jobs over the last 2 years ...

    01/10: 106,800,000
    07/12: 111,317,000

    BLS: Private Sector

    Quote Originally Posted by Masada View Post
    The public sector is suffering? lol...man, you really are a liberal arent you?
    Yes, I am Liberal and yes, the public sector is suffering. While the private sector has gained 4 million jobs over the last 2 years, the public sector has lost 551,000 over that same period of time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Masada View Post
    Notice you didn't even attempt to address the issue of burdensome regulation, and how it has the exact same effect on a business as a new tax.
    I posted, "The Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act cut regulations ... how'd that turn out?." I don't know how you missed that?

    Quote Originally Posted by Masada View Post
    Let me give you the real statistic. There are fewer people working today than there were 3 years ago. The labor force has shrunk. So there is still a NET LOSS of jobs under Obama.
    That's not a "real statistic," it's one you just made up.

    07/2009: 154,538,000
    07/2012: 155,013,000

    BLS: Labor Force

    Despite your made up "real statistics," the labor force has not shrunk and there are more people working today than there were 3 years ago. Perhaps you are confusing with the labor force with the participation rate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Masada View Post

    Unemployment ticks up from 8.2% to 8.3%, and you have the nerve to tout job creation under Obama???? Give me a freakin break.
    I bet you don't even know that the unemployment rate has increased less under Obama than every Republican president on record except for Reagan for the first 42 months in office respectively...


    GHW Bush +2.3 +43%
    Nixon +2.2 +65%
    Ford** +2.0 +36%
    Eisenhower +1.5 +52%
    Bush +1.3 +31%
    Obama +0.5 +6%
    Carter +0.3 +4%
    Reagan 0.0 +0%
    Kennedy* -1.2 -14%
    Clinton -1.8 -25%
    Johnson -1.9 -33%

    * = Kennedy was in office 34 months

    ** = Ford was in office 29 months


    Bureau of Labor Statistics Data


    ... and that is factoring in that Obama inherited the worst economy that any president inherited except for FDR.

    Quote Originally Posted by Masada View Post
    And his Marxist wet dream is just to create PUBLIC SECTOR jobs.
    More made up "real statistics." The private sector has gained jobs under his administration while the public sector has lost jobs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Masada View Post

    Liberals say they don't believe in trickle down economics, but they place government atop the economy as if wealth is going to trickle down from government, or from some government program.
    No, Liberals do not place government atop the economy as if wealth is going to trickle down. You haven't gotten anything right in your post and this trend continues with this nonsense of yours. Nobody expects to get wealthy from the government; but Liberals do rely on the government to protect workers from companies that would treat their employees the way companies in China treat theirs, if they could.

    The rest of your post is just more Conservative delusions.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Citzens. Nearly all of which pay some sort of tax.
    Right! Not the government.

    Bottom line? The government can't do jack **** without the private sector.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Creates? Individuals. But we also do things together, just as Obama said, and these things also help business (help versus create-- two very different words with two very different meanings and aplications).
    That's not what Obama said.

    Government is the oil for the cogs of the private sector, but without the private sector, government wouldn't have any oil in it's drip can.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's not what Obama said.

    Government is the oil for the cogs of the private sector, but without the private sector, government wouldn't have any oil in it's drip can.
    NO, it is specifically what he said. From his speech: The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. You'd be hard pressed to show me where that si different than what I said he said. (also, see any fact check on this).

    That you and others got it wrong is not my fault.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    NO, it is specifically what he said. From his speech: The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. You'd be hard pressed to show me where that si different than what I said he said. (also, see any fact check on this).

    That you and others got it wrong is not my fault.
    We understand that you have the talking points. We have heard them. They are a lie. He is doing what statists always do. Statists denigrate sacrifice, initiative and success unless it occurs on behalf of the state.

    The one term Marxist is just preparing to try to take even more from the makers. He will continue to be very dangerous to the nation for just a few more months.

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