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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Sure, imo, some people are blowing this comment up a bit.

    But nevertheless, it is becoming more and more obvious that Barack Obama is a huge fan of BIG government and not a big fan of free market economics.

    Not good.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Reagan raised taxes ... Jobs were created. Bush senior raised taxes ... jobs were created. Clinton raised taxes ... jobs were created.

    Not establishing cause and effect between the two -- just pointing out the absurdity that raising taxes stifles job growth.


    Ummm, we've had about 4 million jobs added in the private sector over the last 2 years. It's public sector jobs which have suffered the most. That's hardly an indication that "Obamacare" is stifling job growth.


    The Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act cut regulations ... how'd that turn out?
    lol....4.5 million jobs created in the private sector eh? That's not enough to keep up with the rate people are entering the workforce age. I would like to see how the admin comes up with 4.5 million new jobs anyway. I call BS on that number.

    The public sector is suffering? lol...man, you really are a liberal arent you? Do you realize that public sector jobs are funded because of private sector taxation? You do realize that right? We are talking about economic expansion here. So, tell me, if the public sector pays higher than the private sector, on average, which it does for the first time ever, how long do you think that is sustainable? Before a teacher gets paid, or a cop, or a fireman, or a politician, or the post office worker, the government must FIRST extract money out of the private sector in order to pay for it! You do get that don't you? You liberals say you are so worried about creating jobs, but you cant think rationally about what kind of jobs we need to be creating. To liberals, a government job is just as good for the economy as a private sector job. And that's 100% incorrect. For every government job created, 2 private sector jobs have to be created in order to fund that government job.

    Are you any good at math? Do you know where teacher's salaries come from? Because schools don't earn profits to pay their own teachers. WE pay for them through private sector jobs that yield profits, that are then taxed and collected and paid out to teachers, cops, firemen, politicians, and under this administration, corporations that end up going bankrupt 3 months later.

    Notice you didn't even attempt to address the issue of burdensome regulation, and how it has the exact same effect on a business as a new tax. Don't bother with the real issues, just continue to throw out some numbers that you think mean something. 4.5 million jobs you say. Let me give you the real statistic. There are fewer people working today than there were 3 years ago. The labor force has shrunk. So there is still a NET LOSS of jobs under Obama. The economy needs to create upwards of 280,000 jobs per month, just to lower the unemployment number. Unemployment ticks up from 8.2% to 8.3%, and you have the nerve to tout job creation under Obama???? Give me a freakin break. And his Marxist wet dream is just to create PUBLIC SECTOR jobs. But only a clear thinking person realizes that government jobs aren't the answer, because government jobs are paid for by private sector jobs. Liberals always have it backwards when it comes to economic issues.

    Liberals say they don't believe in trickle down economics, but they place government atop the economy as if wealth is going to trickle down from government, or from some government program. A government that lies to them by saying it's time to try some trickle up economics. Look at what we spend on entitlements in this country. Is it elevating people from poverty? No, there are actually MORE people in poverty under Obama, despite increases in entitlement spending. It's pretty simple really, YOU CAN'T GET RICH ON WELFARE, OR UNEMPLOYMENT. But that's the main focus of liberals, government programs that assist people. Wanna assist someone? Stop hating on private sector businesses that produce record profits, and let them employ someone. Stop making it hard on the wealth producers.

    I don't expect anyone one of you liberals to understand this. If government is so freakin great, give up your private sector jobs and go work for Obama. But I tell ya, any sane person knows that they can make far more money for themselves than the government can. Problem is, we have too many people in this country that think the government should guarantee them a certain income. They've been conditioned to think like a Socialist. Class warfare, rage against the 1%, break the banks, break the corporations, boycott the rich, make them pay their fair share, bust wall street, tax the rich, pay for my college education, pay for my house, pay for my food. Ya, that kind of mentality is really going to encourage economic growth isn't it?

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Some more "That's".... You, big business, didn't build.








    Don't get me wrong, private industry is engine that runs this country. But the Federal Government is the battery and taxes are the alternator.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Some more "That's".... You, big business, didn't build.

    Don't get me wrong, private industry is engine that runs this country. But the Federal Government is the battery and taxes are the alternator.
    Personally, I'd say the Federal Givernment is more like the speed limit signs.

    And in the last decade or so, they have been 40 m.p.h. signs on interstates - slowing everything up.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    The most important "You didn't build that."



    The New Hampshire Union Leader’s John DiStato today reports that in 1999 the business in question, Gilchrist Metal, “received $800,000 in tax-exempt revenue bonds issued by the New Hampshire Business Finance Authority ‘to set up a second manufacturing plant and purchase equipment to produce high definition television broadcasting equipment’…” In addition, in 2011, Gilchrist Metal “received two U.S. Navy sub-contracts totaling about $83,000 and a smaller, $5,600 Coast Guard contract in 2008…”
    LINK

    How does it feel for this guy to be caught in a double lie? He's featured lying (by omission) in an ad based on a lie.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."







    Don't get me wrong, private industry is engine that runs this country. But the Federal Government is the battery and taxes are the alternator.[/QUOTE]

    Poor analogy. Batteries are what "start" a car. Government doesn't "start" a private business, and taxes don't keep businesses going. Well, unless you're a green energy company, and then that only lasts so long.

    Look, what liberals like Obama despise, is the simple fact that Americans are capable of becoming far more successful the LESS government we have instead of MORE government. Liberals like Obama want everything to be regulated from the federal level, because they are Progressives, who believe that they can bring about "fundamental change" to a country they see as having been "unfair" to certain sectors of society. It's called social engineering. And how can they change anything unless they first control everything?

    Personally, I kinda like that a person can make as much money as they want in this country. I also like the fact that I can own guns. I also like the fact that I can live pretty much the lifestyle I want to live. I like the fact that if I don't want to buy something, I don't have to. I like the fact that I'm free to help the poor if I so choose. I like having the ability to object to certain social view points if I want to. In other words, I like America just fine, I don't see a need to "fundamentally transform" this country into anything other than what it is and has always been.

    On the other hand, the progressive left, like the Obama types, view America completely different. They believe America and free market capitalism is and has been fundamentally unfair to people. They believe that it disproportionatly rewards the wealthy. While the wealthy can do very very well in America, so can anyone else. There's nothing fundamental about our nation that is prohibiting me from making a billion dollars. I mean, if I had founded Facebook instead of numb nuts, I would be a billionaire, and not him. That same opportunity exists for each of us, Mark Zuckerberg just happened to think of it and I didn't. The same opportunities exist for all of us here in America. Some discover them, and some don't. But it certainly isn't Zuckerberg's fault that I'm not wealthy, and it's not the government's fault either.

    The CEO of Apple makes a lot more money than I do. But why shouldn't he? I wouldn't know the first thing about being the top executive and decision maker for a huge corporation. You think men of that talent should earn as much money as a WalMart checkout teen? You think that would benefit our economy and society? To marginalize talent? This nation was built on individual talent, and liberalism seeks to marginalize individual talent every opportunity it gets. Just like this comment from Obama. I'm not taking him out of context one bit. He's marginalizing people's intelligence and hard work. He mentions those things SPECIFICALLY in this little gaffe of his. He's marginalizing exceptionalism. If you don't see that, you're flat out white washed with ignorance. He marginalized hard working entreprenuers that certainly did build their businesses. I don't care what liberals claim he was "trying to say". I concede what he was "trying" to say. It's the manner in which he said it. He was condescending, and he was marginalizing the individual as the primary reason for one's success.

    Obama is right. People like me have a fundamentally different way we see the world. I believe that the individual is the MOST influential and important part of one's success or failure. I believe individuals are creators, not bureaucracies. The world's finest inventions and ideas have come from individual accomplishment, not government sponsored programs. No matter how good a teacher is, the individual must be willing to be taught. No matter how well the road is constructed, the individual must have a need to use it. No matter how effective a government is, the individual must pay taxes to fund it. No matter how awesome the bridge is, the individual must have a need to cross it. It is the INDIVIDUAL which drives the world. In order to have a functioning society, the individual must agree to participate within that society.

    Progressive liberalism is the antithesis of individualism. I urge you to study the philosophy behind "collectivism". Obama espouses the philosophies of "collectivism". Read his books, study Black Liberation Theology (which is what he claims brought him to Christianity under Jeremiah Wright). He's not a capitalist. He's a former community organizer from the south side of Chicago. That's Saul Alinsky territory. He's a collectivist, and a statist. He is a big government control Progressive. He believes that government incites societal change via mandate and executive order. He is gently PUSHING you into his style of governance, and it's not free market capitalistic, "america as we know it" kind of governance. It's more of a Marxist, European style of collectivism, class warfare, where the government tries to regulate and control virtually all facets of a society, most importantly, the economy.

    Do liberals even know what I'm talking about?

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Sure, imo, some people are blowing this comment up a bit.

    But nevertheless,
    it is becoming more and more obvious that Barack Obama is a huge fan of BIG government and not a big fan of free market economics.
    Not good.
    The one term Marxist flexible president Barrack Hussein Obama is a huge fan of big government? It fits, doesn't it?

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Personally, I'd say the Federal Givernment is more like the speed limit signs.

    And in the last decade or so, they have been 40 m.p.h. signs on interstates - slowing everything up.
    Speed bumps have turned into huge, concrete obstacles.

    We need to get the Marxist out of Washington D.C and send him packing. We need to boot his enablers as well.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    I didn't read through 1400 replies but I wonder if anyone ever thought about that Obama is wrong on this because he says that companies didn't build their businesses, gov't did because of roads. Anyone stop to think where the gov't got its money to build the roads? Oh thats right, from businesses. So yea, businesses paid for their own damn roads, through the gov't.

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