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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Not sure why the "That" and the "It" threads were never merged... nevertheless, here's hoping some people get better informed about the 'That' and the 'It'.
    Those items you point out in the sign are how the government promotes the general welfare. They provide benefits to everyone.
    Collectivists will believe this gives them the right to the wealth created by others. Perhaps it will take a revolution to decide.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Those items you point out in the sign are how the government promotes the general welfare. They provide benefits to everyone.
    Collectivists will believe this gives them the right to the wealth created by others. Perhaps it will take a revolution to decide.
    This is the problem with both sides, over-generlizations, all or nothing thinking.

    "Collectivists" is fantasy, they don't exist. Nobody believes that.

    You throw around these words that have nothing to do with reality.

    No body wants to give freebies out to non-producing layabouts. But the conversation has to start from a place of understanding of how public and private work together to benefit everyone. A business gets a tax credit when it expands in manner that grows its labor force. That makes sense.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    This is the problem with both sides, over-generlizations, all or nothing thinking.

    "Collectivists" is fantasy, they don't exist. Nobody believes that.

    You throw around these words that have nothing to do with reality.

    No body wants to give freebies out to non-producing layabouts. But the conversation has to start from a place of understanding of how public and private work together to benefit everyone. A business gets a tax credit when it expands in manner that grows its labor force. That makes sense.
    Of course they do, welfare rolls are bigger than ever.
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Of course they do, welfare rolls are bigger than ever.
    That's due to hard times and not evidence anyone believes that. Poor reasoning leads to poor conclusions.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    That's due to hard times and not evidence anyone believes that. Poor reasoning leads to poor conclusions.
    That doesn't actually refute what was said. If people did not want to, then we would not be. Regardless of hard times.
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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by Aberration View Post
    That doesn't actually refute what was said. If people did not want to, then we would not be. Regardless of hard times.
    Nonsense. True, we could have them as we did in the great depression. Jobs didn't just spring up then either. We just let people suffer. His reasoning assumes that the only reason is people wanting to be on the dole. There is little to no evidence to support that for the majority.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by Aberration View Post
    That doesn't actually refute what was said. If people did not want to, then we would not be. Regardless of hard times.
    If they didn't want to what? Feed their children?

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."



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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]





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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    This is the problem with both sides, over-generlizations, all or nothing thinking.

    "Collectivists" is fantasy, they don't exist. Nobody believes that.

    You throw around these words that have nothing to do with reality.
    We see them here. We see them every day. They are people who believe as Radical Karl believed that each must be taxed in proportion to his ability to pay and pay and pay so the govern,ment can give some of that money to others who take and take and take.

    No body wants to give freebies out to non-producing layabouts. But the conversation has to start from a place of understanding of how public and private work together to benefit everyone. A business gets a tax credit when it expands in manner that grows its labor force. That makes sense.
    Really? We had more people accepted as disabled than those who found work. Why is that? Well, if someone is declared disabled they come off he rolls of those looking for work. So the Obama Regime has more people working on getting people approved now for SS disability.

    Businesses are not created to hire people. That is a happy by-product. They are created to make profits.

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