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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Would that be different than your side, Boo?
    On this issue, yes. But does both sides have those who are dishonest? Sure. I've said so many times. But on this, it is your side being dishonest.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Hey everyone! Boo says he's non-partisan! Does ANYONE believe that?
    Not exactly what I said, I asked you to note what makes me partisan. We might move on from there. Having liberal points of view isn't equal to being partisan. I want to make sure you understand the difference.

    I'm not ignoring anything, you are. Your partisan bias has you making excuses for what the anointed one said.
    You're ignoring what was actually, and factually said. I'm sorry, but you're reading your own bais in and not objectively reading his words.



    Nope. That's what he said.
    Factually, you're completely wrong. Sorry. But facts are not that maluable.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    On this issue, yes. But does both sides have those who are dishonest? Sure. I've said so many times. But on this, it is your side being dishonest.
    Which side is my side? My side of this issue, or my side?

    Still claiming you're non-partisan?
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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Not exactly what I said, I asked you to note what makes me partisan. We might move on from there. Having liberal points of view isn't equal to being partisan. I want to make sure you understand the difference.
    Boo, everyone here knows who your side is.

    You're ignoring what was actually, and factually said. I'm sorry, but you're reading your own bais in and not objectively reading his words.
    No, actually what he said was "If you've got a succesful business --- you didn't build that!" He did not say "If you've got roads and bridges --- you didn't build those!" It is your side that is ignoring what he actually said. In a campaign speech, no less. Why bring it up at all....in a campaign speech?


    Factually, you're completely wrong. Sorry. But facts are not that maluable.
    No. Not so much.
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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Boo, everyone here knows who your side is.
    Translation: Proving evidence is hard.

    No, actually what he said was "If you've got a succesful business --- you didn't build that!" He did not say "If you've got roads and bridges --- you didn't build those!" It is your side that is ignoring what he actually said. In a campaign speech, no less. Why bring it up at all....in a campaign speech?
    No, that refered to roads. You doing the lazy dishonest partisan sheep thing.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Which side is my side? My side of this issue, or my side?

    Still claiming you're non-partisan?
    This issue. As for my partisanship, I've asked for you to provide evidence as to what makes me partisan. Feel free to give it a shot.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Good roads, less discrimination, leading the world in a lot of technology and medicine (government support of R&D at major univerisites certianly helps), and the best place in the world to be poor. Quite a bit actually. I don't think you want to move to any other country, and government is actually part of the reason why.
    Hate to tell you this bud, but a lot of other countries have caught up to us. Heck, Iraq's highway system rivals ours. Good roads don't make a country. Electing a black leader doesn't make us better. We were way behind on that. People are leaving this country to get operations and medical care. I won't argue this is the best place to be poor though. Where else can you buy cigarrettes, soda, and steaks with other people's money. Thats why the Tea Party and groups like it have erupted lately. We see the best days in the rear view. The more gov't gets involved, the less competitive, the less bold, the less ambitious, the less individualized we get. We are becoming a nation of groups formed by politicians. And we define ourselves that way. Most citizens have no issue with calling themselves "the middle class" or various other polling groups. That is why groups like the Tea Party and yes, even Occupy (before they became violent) were not embraced by mainstream politicians and are still held at arms distance. They are groups started by individuals that are about the individuals and not politically controlled.
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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Fact is this quote was drastically taken out of context
    No, you just didn't get the context because you love everything he says. I hope Romney keep beating his ass with it for the next 3 months or so. It's the dumbest things Obama has every said, and he said it at the perfect time.

    That ignorant ****up thinks the Internet was invented so companies could make money. It was a Cold War communications system for the military. Private individuals made it what it is today, a useful tool for society.

    I wonder if Obama every heard of Tim Berners-Lee, who never made a dime off his invention.
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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Hate to tell you this bud, but a lot of other countries have caught up to us. Heck, Iraq's highway system rivals ours. Good roads don't make a country. Electing a black leader doesn't make us better. We were way behind on that. People are leaving this country to get operations and medical care. I won't argue this is the best place to be poor though. Where else can you buy cigarrettes, soda, and steaks with other people's money. Thats why the Tea Party and groups like it have erupted lately. We see the best days in the rear view. The more gov't gets involved, the less competitive, the less bold, the less ambitious, the less individualized we get. We are becoming a nation of groups formed by politicians. And we define ourselves that way. Most citizens have no issue with calling themselves "the middle class" or various other polling groups. That is why groups like the Tea Party and yes, even Occupy (before they became violent) were not embraced by mainstream politicians and are still held at arms distance. They are groups started by individuals that are about the individuals and not politically controlled.
    You're kind of leaping all over the place. What does Obama being black have to with ****? And while there are a very few who may abuse the system, the real abuse is at the top. Nothing done by those at the bottom comes close. And while I see problems with mainstream politics, mostly that there really isn't any difference (and if any fool thinks Romeny is siginifcant different than Obama, I would like to seel you some real estate.). But anger isn't a movement, and that's true of both the TP and OWS. I have discussed this with local members of each. If they really had any insight, they'd set down the BS and organized to present us with something different (not bat **** crazy either). You may not have lied the 60's, but they in comparison, they knew how to organize then. And for pete's sake, be coherent.

    Now, as none of what said has anything to do with the point I was addressing, as it had nothing to do with competition world wide, we can go off topic, or you can swing around and address the point I made.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    No, you just didn't get the context because you love everything he says. I hope Romney keep beating his ass with it for the next 3 months or so. It's the dumbest things Obama has every said, and he said it at the perfect time.
    No, if you buy the lies, you're just part of the problem.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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