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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    business-haters don't pass laws giving private businesses 30 million new customers.
    LOL. They do if more than HALF of that money is from taxes, that is crony capitalism. Obama is all about income redistribution, take from the most productive and give to the least productive to be "fair".
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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    LOL. They do if more than HALF of that money is from taxes, that is crony capitalism. Obama is all about income redistribution, take from the most productive and give to the least productive to be "fair".
    the middle-class are WAAAAAAAAAY more productive than the wealthy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    the middle-class are WAAAAAAAAAY more productive than the wealthy.
    Framed this generally, this is a dishonest statement. If a guy moves from a production floor to management, but has superior knowledge and management ability to keep 50 other workers on the production floor operating at optimal capacity, he is contributing significantly, albeit indirectly, to "production."

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    This part pissed me off more than the other,
    "“I’m always struck by people who think ‘well, it must be because I was just so smart’. There are a lot of smart people out there! ‘It must be because I worked harder than everybody else.’ Let me tell you something—there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there!”.
    I understand his point about the roads lead people to your business, but, the aforementioned comments lead me to believe that he meant it the way its been portrayed. President Obama believes the gov't should be as involved as it is in our lives. He believes it should be MORE involved than it is. What has that gotten us?
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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    Framed this generally, this is a dishonest statement....
    no, its factual.

    grants, wealthy folks who started with nothing and built a factory that now employees 1,000 people, has been very productive. I respect such people and congratulate their success and hope for more.

    but folks who simply get rich by buying & selling properties, stocks, & bonds....folks who inherited their wealth, folks who simply sign documents written by others are simply a token of control and bureaucracy, are NOT more productive than the folks who do the actual work that creates profit.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    no, its factual.

    grants, wealthy folks who started with nothing and built a factory that now employees 1,000 people, has been very productive. I respect such people and congratulate their success and hope for more.

    but folks who simply get rich by buying & selling properties, stocks, & bonds....folks who inherited their wealth, folks who simply sign documents written by others are simply a token of control and bureaucracy, are NOT more productive than the folks who do the actual work that creates profit.
    You need the second group just as much as the first bro. I would put forth that you need an equal, if not higher level, of education to buy/sell properties, stocks, bonds, sign documents. Why hate on inheritance? Should their parents have just given it away to someone else? Almost everyone inherits something from their parents. Whether its a couch or millions doesn't matter. Should someone have to throw their couch to the curb?
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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    This part pissed me off more than the other,
    "“I’m always struck by people who think ‘well, it must be because I was just so smart’. There are a lot of smart people out there! ‘It must be because I worked harder than everybody else.’ Let me tell you something—there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there!”.
    I understand his point about the roads lead people to your business, but, the aforementioned comments lead me to believe that he meant it the way its been portrayed. President Obama believes the gov't should be as involved as it is in our lives. He believes it should be MORE involved than it is. What has that gotten us?
    Good roads, less discrimination, leading the world in a lot of technology and medicine (government support of R&D at major univerisites certianly helps), and the best place in the world to be poor. Quite a bit actually. I don't think you want to move to any other country, and government is actually part of the reason why.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that."

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Good roads, less discrimination, leading the world in a lot of technology and medicine (government support of R&D at major univerisites certianly helps), and the best place in the world to be poor. Quite a bit actually. I don't think you want to move to any other country, and government is actually part of the reason why.
    But is it a GROWING part, or a SHRINKING part?
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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    business-haters don't pass laws giving private businesses 30 million new customers.
    Business hating Keynesian like Obama pass laws with a fatal conceit which hallucinates their ability to decide what's best for consumers. Rather than leaving it to free people to decide for themselves what they want to purchase or invest in.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Romulus View Post
    Business hating Keynesian like Obama pass laws with a fatal conceit which hallucinates their ability to decide what's best for consumers....
    I majored in Geography, not English. Please put this into laymen's terms.
    Last edited by Thunder; 07-26-12 at 12:02 AM. Reason: can't spell Geography. :)

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