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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Why are you denying your own words?
    I'm not denying anything. The Senate is controlled by which party? And why is your headline "Reps block jobs bill" when just moments before, it was the Dems who did the exact same thing?

    Just moments before, the Reps put forth a bill that would cut taxes on employers with fewer than 500 employees. How did that vote go again? Hmmmmm....gonna tell me Dems voted for that bill?

    You are being so dishonest. Do you really expect anyone to believe that Republicans oppose tax cuts on businesses, when just minutes before this last vote, they put forth their own bill that CUT TAXES ON BUSINESSES????

    Give me a break. The only way you people can debate is dishonestly. The fight is over "who" is going to get a tax break. Republicans say EVERYONE, and liberals say EVERYONE BUT THE RICH. And all you're interested in is a freakin headline, and a meaningless debate. You know well enough that Republicans have been pushing hard to extend the Bush tax cuts, but you insist on being dishonest now by saying they opposed tax cuts on businesses because they don't want to create jobs. Bull crap.

    Tell the truth. The fight is over "who" is going to get a tax break. The Democrats are the ones who are willing to allow ALL the Bush tax breaks expire if the Republicans dont go along with the class warfare strategy. And in the end, it's the Democrats who have the power. They control 2/3 of Congress. So don't try to debate this issue dishonestly.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Turns out, Republicans fillibustered the bill because Democrats refused to allow any ammendments to the bill. So, Reid said, "it's my way or the highway", once again.

    LIberals like that kind of leadership these days: "here's the bill, no ammendments are allowed. vote for it or against it."

    So, wisely, Reps voted against it. ALONG WITH 13 DEMOCRATS.

    Nice try though boys....better luck next time Harry

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Masada View Post
    Turns out, Republicans fillibustered the bill because Democrats refused to allow any ammendments to the bill....
    Democrats submit a bill that should have been accepted by almost all Senators.

    rather than allowing such a bi-partisan outcome, the GOP instead insists on adding partisan issues that they know will kill the bill.

    so who's really at fault? the folks who proposed the bill that everyone agrees on or the folks who wanted amendments that more than 50% of the Senate do not want?????

    why the hell can't the GOP allow bipartisan-supported bills get passed???????????

    sure...fine....kill the bills that you don't like. But WHY kill the bills that you DO like?

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Um, you're completely misrepresenting what happened. The GOP filibustered the small business tax cuts, which is separate from the bills referenced in your quote. Your quote references bills dealing with the extension of the Bush tax cuts.
    The alleged "small business tax cuts" are still in the dem bill. It's just posturing and rhetoric though, because the the dem version raises taxes on everyone making over $200K, and don't you dare die in 2013.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    Democrats submit a bill that should have been accepted by almost all Senators.

    rather than allowing such a bi-partisan outcome, the GOP instead insists on adding partisan issues that they know will kill the bill.

    so who's really at fault? the folks who proposed the bill that everyone agrees on or the folks who wanted amendments that more than 50% of the Senate do not want?????

    why the hell can't the GOP allow bipartisan-supported bills get passed???????????

    sure...fine....kill the bills that you don't like. But WHY kill the bills that you DO like?
    Dont come at me with "could have's" and "should have's". It's not leadership to dictate to everyone else that it's your way or the highway. Why can't the Dems allow for ammendments, which is the routine way of passing a bill???????

    How in the hell can you call it a bi-partisan bill, if it was entirely written by Democrats, and Republicans were not allowed to add a single ammendment?????

    No, your definition of Bi-partisan is the same as Harry Reid's: "we write the bills, you shut up and support it, and that's bi-partisanship". Real leadership there I'll tell ya. Democrats think they have a winning strategy by demanding that taxes be raised on individuals earning more than 250k. But REpublicans are smarter than that.

    Now, try to understand this ONE LAST TIME THUNDER DOME! 67% of small businesses file taxes as INDIVIDUALS. So, if Dems raise taxes on individuals earning more than 250k a year, they are also raising taxes on the majority of small business owners. Therefore, Republicans are standing on a principle, which happens to be the same principle that Dems say they have, which is cutting taxes on small businesses. But increasing taxes on individuals who earn more than 250k a year, increases taxes on the majority of small businesses!!!!!

    Once again, common liberals didn't think this through, and have decided to recite the MSNBC talking points. But they don't realize who they contradict themselves. Amazing.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Romulus View Post
    The alleged "small business tax cuts" are still in the dem bill. It's just posturing and rhetoric though, because the the dem version raises taxes on everyone making over $200K, and don't you dare die in 2013.
    the GOP killed the Dem bill that ONLY created tax-cuts for businesses.

    they should not have done that. There is no reason they couldn't let a bi-partisan supported bill just get voted on.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    the GOP killed the Dem bill that ONLY created tax-cuts for businesses.

    they should not have done that. There is no reason they couldn't let a bi-partisan supported bill just get voted on.
    What # SB was that? How did that Senate Bill differ from this one that passed the Senate today?

    Senate OKs Dem tax-cut bill in showdown with GOP

    You don't know...do you? It's just easier to make stuff up, isn't it?

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Romulus View Post
    What # SB was that? How did that Senate Bill differ from this one that passed the Senate today?

    Senate OKs Dem tax-cut bill in showdown with GOP

    You don't know...do you? It's just easier to make stuff up, isn't it?
    Do you have any idea who you're talking to??? It's Thunder Dome, all he knows how to do is make stuff up.

    Hey, he can't be bothered with facts. He's already determined that Republicans are hell bent on raising taxes on businesses, and that Democrats are the real party of tax cuts. No amount of proof sways this cat.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Romulus View Post
    What # SB was that? How did that Senate Bill differ from this one that passed the Senate today?

    Senate OKs Dem tax-cut bill in showdown with GOP

    You don't know...do you? It's just easier to make stuff up, isn't it?
    where does it say that the tax-cuts for businesses to hire more people, is part of the bill?

    your article says no such thing. So were YOU making stuff up?

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    where does it say that the tax-cuts for businesses to hire more people, is part of the bill?

    your article says no such thing. So were YOU making stuff up?
    You made the assertion that these are two separate bills, not me. The onus of proof is on you. Which SB number is the "small business tax bill", and which SB passed today?

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