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Thread: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    ...The GOP filibustered the small business tax cuts, which is separate from the bills referenced in your quote.....
    which shows just how much they value tax cuts for job-creators.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Masada View Post
    Oh I see....and I suppose THE SENATE has enough republican votes to kill the bill right? Like I said, the day you start thinking things through, is the day I'll probably stroke out.....

    You must have seen this sentence since the one you C&P'd came just after it
    The vote was 53-44, seven short of the 60 votes required to overcome GOP procedural hurdles.
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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    You must have seen this sentence since the one you C&P'd came just after it
    indeed, the GOP filibustered tax-cuts for small businesses.

    soo much for supporting the job-creators.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    which shows just how much they value tax cuts for job-creators.
    They fillibustered because of the strings attached to the bill Thunder. Just minutes before, THEIR proposal to cut taxes on small businesses was DEFEATED BY DEMOCRATS.

    And just to point out, the Democrat bill was defeated BY DEMOCRATS AS WELL!!!

    You wanna use a Senate bill to try to place blame on Republicans? lololol....wow! Dems control the Senate. The same Senate that hasn't produced a mandatory budget in how many years now? I lost count.

    Look at the House. Republicans have passed numerous jobs bills in the House. Senate hasn't even picked them up. Look at the track record. Obama refuses to cut taxes on anyone, but demands that tax cuts on the upper tax bracketts expire. While Reps are simply asking to extend them all for 2 years. So, who's looking out for the ENTIRE country? REpublicans. They want to extend tax cuts for ALL, while Dems just wanna extend them for a select few. Playing class warfare. It's who they are.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    You must have seen this sentence since the one you C&P'd came just after it
    It would be the same if I said that in 2005, Democrats voted unanimously against a bill that would of funded more bullett proof vests for our troops in Iraq. It would be true. But would it be true to say that's the reason they voted against the bill?

    This may be a bad example, because I wouldn't put that past liberals either. But the fact is, they opposed the bill because of other reasons, not because of the bullett proof vests.

    Same applies here. The Republicans had just had a bill defeated that would of cut taxes on businesses with 500 or fewer employees. You're being dishonest, along with Thunder. Republicans weren't filibustering over tax cuts, but all the other crap Dems tried to pile in the bill. So save your lies for someone who will fall for your them.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    REpublicans. They want to extend tax cuts for ALL, Dems just wanna extend them for a select few.
    90%+ of the population is now a "select few"? Seriously, where did you learn how to count?
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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Masada View Post
    It would be the same if I said that in 2005, Democrats voted unanimously against a bill that would of funded more bullett proof vests for our troops in Iraq. It would be true. But would it be true to say that's the reason they voted against the bill?

    This may be a bad example, because I wouldn't put that past liberals either. But the fact is, they opposed the bill because of other reasons, not because of the bullett proof vests.

    Same applies here. The Republicans had just had a bill defeated that would of cut taxes on businesses with 500 or fewer employees. You're being dishonest, along with Thunder. Republicans weren't filibustering over tax cuts, but all the other crap Dems tried to pile in the bill. So save your lies for someone who will fall for your them.

    Why are you denying your own words?

    Quote Originally Posted by Masada View Post
    Oh I see....and I suppose THE SENATE has enough republican votes to kill the bill right? Like I said, the day you start thinking things through, is the day I'll probably stroke out.....
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Masada View Post
    They fillibustered because of the strings attached to the bill Thunder....
    you mean like how the GOP added an amendment that extended tax-cuts for the middle class and the wealthy?

    that kind of attached strings?

    why did the GOP have to hold tax-cuts for job-creators hostage to the income tax debate?

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Masada View Post
    ...You're being dishonest, along with Thunder....
    pretty ironic, my friend...considering your denial of the GOP filibuster.
    Last edited by Thunder; 07-25-12 at 07:02 PM.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    What you linked to is an interpretation just like any other. Everyone hears what they hear filtered through their own bias. If you view the speach, you can see exactly what he meant when he said the words.
    Nonsense. His words and meaning is clear, to the nonpartisan.

    My interpretation is my reality. Just as yours is yours.
    It's not that flexible.



    Actually, it's plainly an attempt to diminish the impact of Romney's success. There is no other reason to bring up something so plainly obvious..and get carried away doing it.

    It's clear he feels that any individual's success in business is "no big deal" thanks to the helping hand of government. I mean, since the govt is there to help, anyone can do it, right?

    What's in your wallet?
    Shocking, candidates addressing each other? The rest, is you projecting.

    As for my wallet, quite enough.

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