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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    You have no problem paying 42 cents per gallon to gov't yet paying 6 cents per gallon to Exxon is obscene profit? Hmm...
    Show me where I ever said that paying 6 cents per gallon to Exxon is obscene.
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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Bottom line: Obama's reputation on the economy has him putting up the "really, I don't hate businesses..trust me" defense. It's rather pathetic.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Romulus View Post
    Bottom line: Obama's reputation on the economy has him putting up the "really, I don't hate businesses..trust me" defense. It's rather pathetic.
    Obama and the Democrats tried to get tax-cuts for businesses to hire more workers, and the GOP said "no".

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Ok, Boo.

    Why? Why is it part of a campaign speech? Is he worried Romney would disband govt or stop building roads? What purpose of thought led to the inclusion of this idea that created this gaff?
    Not sure why you think your question means they can be dishonest about what he said. He merely points out that we accomplish a lot by working together. This isn't all that controversial. But, like happens too often, instead of addressing what he actually said, partisans go off into silly land and embrace the lie. There is a prevasive thought out that government doesn't work, and yet much of what it does, business and most everyone else depends on. Roads and bridges are a good example. SO, a poltiican addressing that is not something that is extreme.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by zeusomally View Post
    I think he should have to pay taxes on his earnings just like everyone else in society who can afford to do so. That is all. If some of that money should eventually be used by the government to continue funding public swim pools for the next Mark Spitz, then the system has come full cycle and worked just as it should. See, isn't collectivism great!
    But thats not what obama wants or said. I have no issue with what you said above. But obama wants guys like Spitz to "share" their wealth, not just pay taxes. there is a huge difference.
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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Not sure why you think your question means they can be dishonest about what he said. He merely points out that we accomplish a lot by working together. This isn't all that controversial. But, like happens too often, instead of addressing what he actually said, partisans go off into silly land and embrace the lie. There is a prevasive thought out that government doesn't work, and yet much of what it does, business and most everyone else depends on. Roads and bridges are a good example. SO, a poltiican addressing that is not something that is extreme.
    If thats all he said, no one would have a problem with it. But you have to take the entire statement in context along with other things he has said and written. Obama believes in the marxist view of society. "from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs" and he wants to be the one deciding who gets what from whom.

    you on the left have no idea the danger posed by that type of ideology----unless of course, you also believe it.
    "Just get the hell out of my way" John Galt to the government in Atlas Shrugged.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    Obama and the Democrats tried to get tax-cuts for businesses to hire more workers, and the GOP said "no".
    Please, you're only fooling yourself. Senate Republicans said "no" to raising taxes on small businesses.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Not sure why you think your question means they can be dishonest about what he said. He merely points out that we accomplish a lot by working together. This isn't all that controversial. But, like happens too often, instead of addressing what he actually said, partisans go off into silly land and embrace the lie. There is a prevasive thought out that government doesn't work, and yet much of what it does, business and most everyone else depends on. Roads and bridges are a good example. SO, a poltiican addressing that is not something that is extreme.
    They aren't being dishonest about what he said. Exagerating it a bit, maybe, but he said what he said.

    So, we KNOW that govt plays a role in business. President Obama didn't point out anything that isn't known (other than his disdain for private sector success) and he wasn't proposing any change. Why bring it up at all, then?
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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    They aren't being dishonest about what he said. Exagerating it a bit, maybe, but he said what he said.

    So, we KNOW that govt plays a role in business. President Obama didn't point out anything that isn't known (other than his disdain for private sector success) and he wasn't proposing any change. Why bring it up at all, then?
    Yes, they are being dishonest. And I've linked how.

    And distain is your interpretation, not reality. As his opponents demonize use of government, that is plenty of reason to try and discuss it honestly. We don't do dicussing honestly well and this country, which is why so many lies dominate. I say shame on us.

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    Re: Obama to business owners: "You didn't build that." [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Romulus View Post
    Please, you're only fooling yourself. Senate Republicans said "no" to raising taxes on small businesses.
    Who's zoomin' who? GOP Blocks Senate Small-Business Tax Cut Bill : Roll Call News
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