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    Re: France's National Front to sue Madonna over Le Pen swastika

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Just so you know, the Nazis actually prosecuted socialists, social democrats and communists.

    So did the communists.

    Any honest person of any intellectual ability and historical knowledge fully knows there is nothing "right wing" about the nazis, and that is simply one of many canards of the american left.

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    Re: France's National Front to sue Madonna over Le Pen swastika

    So now we're off and running in a discussion over whether the Nazis were right wingers or left wingers. They were lunatic fringers, not related to either the right or the left as it currently exists in America or Europe, or anywhere else.
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    Re: France's National Front to sue Madonna over Le Pen swastika

    Nazism is actually an extension of national liberalism from the Second Reich, and it endorsed the Protestant Reich Church.

    The Protestant Reformation's emphasis of total depravity was the basis of labor theory of value, so if anything, Nazism was classically liberal, not conservative.

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    Re: France's National Front to sue Madonna over Le Pen swastika

    This has nothing to do with "is the nazis righties or lefties" or "how many plastic surgeries can a 50 year old woman take before looking like Michael Jackson"?

    It's about one group of people saying "**** you" to another group of people. Well **** you back.



    It also has nothing to do with Free Speech or any other type of nonsense.
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    Re: France's National Front to sue Madonna over Le Pen swastika

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    So now we're off and running in a discussion over whether the Nazis were right wingers or left wingers. They were lunatic fringers, not related to either the right or the left as it currently exists in America or Europe, or anywhere else.
    You haven't talked with many fascists, have you? They openly admit that their goal is to paint an authoritarian veneer on top of liberal ideas because they want liberal economics to fuel the war machine.

    That way, the State doesn't have to care about human rights. It can simply drill towards productivity, and let the weak, fragile, and sensitive fall through the cracks.

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    Re: France's National Front to sue Madonna over Le Pen swastika

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    It was stupid for Madona to Godwin during the concert.
    Doesn't "Godwin's Law" only apply to internet discussion boards?

    In the real world, you are free to call a Nazi "a Nazi."

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    Re: France's National Front to sue Madonna over Le Pen swastika

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Good luck on that lol...


    wish though she would stop flashing her tits... they aint what they use to be!
    Beautiful post, finally PeteEU you're actually right
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    Re: France's National Front to sue Madonna over Le Pen swastika

    Quote Originally Posted by vendur View Post
    So did the communists.
    They didn't prosecute them because they were communists. That little detail seems to escape you.
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    Re: France's National Front to sue Madonna over Le Pen swastika

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    How is mercantilism classically right wing?
    Conservatism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    As Switzerland considered closer relations with the European Union in the 1990s, the SVP adopted a more militant protectionist and isolationist stance. This stance has allowed it to expand into German-speaking Catholic mountainous areas.[107] The Anti-Defamation League has accused them of manipulating issues such as immigration, Swiss neutrality and welfare benefits, awakening anti-Semitism and racism.[108] The Council of Europe has called the SVP "extreme right", although some scholars dispute this classification. Hans-Georg Betz for example describes it as "populist radical right".[109]
    Founded in 1926 as the Conservative Party, Iceland's Independence Party adopted its current name in 1929. From the beginning they have been the largest vote-winning party, averaging around 40%. They combine liberalism and conservatism, supporting nationalization and opposed to class conflict. While mostly in opposition during the 1930s, they embraced economic liberalism, but accepted the welfare state after the war and participated in governments supportive of state intervention and protectionism. Unlike other Scandanivian conservative (and liberal) parties, it has always had a large working-class following.[99]
    Capitalism isn't 'right wing' | right, left, american - Opinion - YumaSun

    In European political history, the right has been royalists, fascists, traditionalists and even militarists, while the left included mainly socialists, communists and welfare statists.

    Read more: Capitalism isn't 'right wing' | right, left, american - Opinion - YumaSun
    Oh hey... here is the very party in question - a right wing party - supporting protectionism:

    http://inthesetimes.org/uprising/ent...useful_idiots/

    Under Jean-Marie Le Pen the party was at the cutting edge of neoliberalism, before shifting towards a kind of right-wing protectionism, an evolution cemented in the recent election rhetoric of his daughter Marine Le Pen, who has positioned herself as a defender of the social safety net and the European Central Bank's foe. “Neither right nor left – French!” the slogan goes.
    I'm not sure how private ownership makes sense when it's subject to national interests.
    Your ignorance on the subject is not something I can do much about. Try Google?
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    Re: France's National Front to sue Madonna over Le Pen swastika

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Wikipedia
    No wonder you know seem to know so little about history/politics.

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