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    USDA moves to end questionable food stamp ads after criticism

    USDA moves to end questionable food stamp ads after criticism | Fox News

    The Department of Agriculture moved Friday to "cease future production" of advertisements that encourage people to go on food stamps, FoxNews.com has learned, following criticism over what was described as an "aggressive" campaign to grow enrollment.

    The department had come under fire for a 10-part series of Spanish-language "novelas" that trumpeted the benefits of the food stamp program. The radio ads were produced in 2008, but continued to be available for use.

    After those ads drew scrutiny, though, the USDA removed them from its website.
    This surprises me. A day after the Obama Administration attempts to remove the work requirement from the welfare reform law they back down on the “everyone go get food stamps” advertisements?

    This government push to get people addicted to welfare and government assistance just smells like a crack dealer giving some kid his first few rocks for free.

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    Re: USDA moves to end questionable food stamp ads after criticism

    May I suggest that this is simply an example of the right hand not knowing what the left hand is doing?

    Most of these many government agencies are run by political appointees whose primary qualifications are which country club they golf at. It's natural that you would have conflict of direction. I assure you that Obama does not personally run all the government oir even have much control if he wanted to.

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    This surprises me. A day after the Obama Administration attempts to remove the work requirement from the welfare reform law they back down on the “everyone go get food stamps” advertisements?

    This government push to get people addicted to welfare and government assistance just smells like a crack dealer giving some kid his first few rocks for free.

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    Re: USDA moves to end questionable food stamp ads after criticism

    What is most bothersome about these ads is that somebody in the government thinks that food stamps are a good way to get in shape or to better your life. It should be a temporary way to get by while you find another way to make money, not a life style.

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    Re: USDA moves to end questionable food stamp ads after criticism

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    May I suggest that this is simply an example of the right hand not knowing what the left hand is doing?

    Most of these many government agencies are run by political appointees whose primary qualifications are which country club they golf at. It's natural that you would have conflict of direction. I assure you that Obama does not personally run all the government oir even have much control if he wanted to.
    I would consider the “right hand/left hand” a more plausible explanation if the food stamp advertisement issue hadn’t been such a hot button topic recently but I find it hard to believe that the USDA Undersecretary made this decision without approval from the White House.

    Is it possible? Sure. I think this and the illegal HHS revision to welfare reform occurring within 24 hours of each other wasn’t a mistake however.

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    Re: USDA moves to end questionable food stamp ads after criticism

    A lesson in irony.

    The Food Stamp Program, administered by the Department of Agriculture, is proud to be distributing the greatest number of food stamps and free meals ever.

    Meanwhile the National Park Service, administered by the Department of the Interior, tells us "Please Do Not Feed The Animals." Their stated reason for the policy is because the animals will grow dependent on handouts and will not learn to take care of themselves.

    This ends today's lesson.
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    Re: USDA moves to end questionable food stamp ads after criticism

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    A lesson in irony.

    The Food Stamp Program, administered by the Department of Agriculture, is proud to be distributing the greatest number of food stamps and free meals ever.

    Meanwhile the National Park Service, administered by the Department of the Interior, tells us "Please Do Not Feed The Animals." Their stated reason for the policy is because the animals will grow dependent on handouts and will not learn to take care of themselves.

    This ends today's lesson.
    People are not squirrels.

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    Re: USDA moves to end questionable food stamp ads after criticism

    Quote Originally Posted by GhostlyJoe View Post
    People are not squirrels.
    We are still animals and if we let others take care of us, we forget how to take care of ourselves. I’m pretty sure the courts agree with this because they are always ordering that a spouse must pay alimony to another spouse after a divorce.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    We are still animals and if we let others take care of us, we forget how to take care of ourselves. I’m pretty sure the courts agree with this because they are always ordering that a spouse must pay alimony to another spouse after a divorce.
    That's not why courts grants alimony -- but whatever.

    Here's a fact sheet from the USDA:

    The average length of time a participant stays on the program is 9 months.
    Can you show that long-term dependency on SNAP is widespread? Obviously, the precipitous rise in SNAP enrollment due to our recent recession would skew that number lower, but this fact sheet references 2006 data, so it predates the rise. Seems that most people are off the program within a year. Perhaps your theories about dependency don't hold up to scrutiny?

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    Re: USDA moves to end questionable food stamp ads after criticism

    Quote Originally Posted by GhostlyJoe View Post
    That's not why courts grants alimony -- but whatever.

    Here's a fact sheet from the USDA:



    Can you show that long-term dependency on SNAP is widespread? Obviously, the precipitous rise in SNAP enrollment due to our recent recession would skew that number lower, but this fact sheet references 2006 data, so it predates the rise. Seems that most people are off the program within a year. Perhaps your theories about dependency don't hold up to scrutiny?
    Sure it is in many cases. If someone has been a homemaker for so many years that their likely prospects for earning a decent income have diminished, the court will take that into consideration.

    Another similar scenario is the long term unemployed person. The longer they are out of work, the harder it is for them to find a job. Welfare and food stamps propagate poverty by allowing capable people to get their needs met without working. Now the Obama Administration is trying to waive the work requirement altogether.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
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    Re: USDA moves to end questionable food stamp ads after criticism

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    Sure it is in many cases. If someone has been a homemaker for so many years that their likely prospects for earning a decent income have diminished, the court will take that into consideration.

    Another similar scenario is the long term unemployed person. The longer they are out of work, the harder it is for them to find a job. Welfare and food stamps propagate poverty by allowing capable people to get their needs met without working.
    The point of the programs is to help people meet their needs. We have systemic unemployment. This is not about lazy poor people, as the data show.

    Now the Obama Administration is trying to waive the work requirement altogether.
    No they're not.

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