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    Re: Democrats now want welfare to become a way of life for people who do not want to

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I've thought this for years. What's the saying?
    It also works with government contracts, subsidies, tax exemptions, tax credits... Plenty of things Republicans like to dole out to their constituents as well.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Democrats now want welfare to become a way of life for people who do not want to

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    take out the word MAKE, type in the word ALLOW.....that adds DIGNITY to welfare and unemployment....
    If we're going to do this, why not just hire this people outright to do the jobs of community service? Such as road clean up, activity programs with the elderly, working in after-school programs, etc?

    If we're going to give them welfare to do community service why not do it right and hire them to it instead?
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Democrats now want welfare to become a way of life for people who do not want to

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    We should probably only allow educated, successful, and good looking people to have children....
    I'm all for requiring licenses to people before they're allowed to raise a child.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Democrats now want welfare to become a way of life for people who do not want to

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    or understand....
    last thing I want is religious leaders, or philosophers, or govt leaders dictating to the masses how things should be...
    Mankind has progressed sporadically, yes, but in the long run, we are better off than we were 100 years ago.
    What you are professing is for us to be mostly dumb sheep led by a bunch of elitest sheep herders.
    Welcome to the world of peasantry...
    You really don't see a difference between religion and philosophy?

    One is illogical. The other is not.

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    Re: Democrats now want welfare to become a way of life for people who do not want to

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    so we let history repeat itself? there is a point in looking back, to learn from the mistakes of others....
    If we always try to learn from the mistakes of others, then we're cowards who never pioneer anything.

    Society and economy always stagnate under that proscription. You're always depending on others experimenting for you instead of experimenting for yourself.

    The system makes logical sense. Literally, you're depending on logic experts to define right and wrong.

    I don't know why you're comparing it to religion. We're not talking about sublime ceremony, mystery, or scripture here. We're talking about understanding deductive judgment.

    The problem in the job market is when people decide to apply pragmatic induction instead. That always leads to incomplete solutions because you're assuming past performance guarantees future results.

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    Re: Democrats now want welfare to become a way of life for people who do not want to

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    You really don't see a difference between religion and philosophy?

    One is illogical. The other is not.
    either can be abused....to the detriment of the public...
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    Re: Democrats now want welfare to become a way of life for people who do not want to

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    either can be abused....to the detriment of the public...
    You're claiming reason is against the public interest?

    Don't get me wrong, I don't support postmodernism in the slightest, but the problem with postmodernism is it's inductive. That's not reliable philosophy.

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    Re: Democrats now want welfare to become a way of life for people who do not want to

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    You're claiming reason is against the public interest?

    Don't get me wrong, I don't support postmodernism in the slightest, but the problem with postmodernism is it's inductive. That's not reliable philosophy.
    my statement was clear, either can be abused.

    You think people can be controlled using your methods....I say you can only control a few, you will have to kill the rest before they kill you...
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    Re: Democrats now want welfare to become a way of life for people who do not want to

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    my statement was clear, either can be abused.

    You think people can be controlled using your methods....I say you can only control a few, you will have to kill the rest before they kill you...
    What?

    I don't think about controlling people at all. The point is to have people controlling themselves by appreciating reason and using their own methods.

    Killing people is out of the question.

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    Re: Democrats now want welfare to become a way of life for people who do not want to

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Perhaps you can tell us why the rich need to get handouts when they are rich?
    Because they paid for them, no different when you go to the store and pay for an apple, you want to leave with it, you paid for it. Why would you ever want to go to a store and pay $200 for groceries and then leave them there?
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