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    Re: Democrats now want welfare to become a way of life for people who do not want to

    Quote Originally Posted by James Cessna View Post
    Sadly, it is clear the Democrats want welfare to become a way of life for people who do not want to work.
    Oh damn, you've seen through our insidious plan!!
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    Re: Democrats now want welfare to become a way of life for people who do not want to

    Nothing is ever settled in American politics. The battles of the past are refought over and over again. There will be no peace in this iteration of America.

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    Re: Democrats now want welfare to become a way of life for people who do not want to

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post

    Another nonsensical message. To claim unlimited and unqualified free goverment money is conservative is nonsense. To claim people should earn their own money is not socialism. No other person but you on earth possibly would be so confused and so misused well understood words.

    Welfare is a social program. That is not a complex concept.

    "Undermining social values makes consumers desperate causing inflation..." is more just goofiness.
    There are very wise comments indeed, joko.

    The Democrats are desperately trying to draw attention away from Obama's poor record of his dismal economoc recovery.

    The number of long-term unemployed — those out of work 27 weeks or more — is still 5.4 million — almost 1 million higher than when the recovery began, and almost twice the level it ever reached prior to Obama's recovery. ... In addition, while hiring has been very weak during the recovery, the number of people who have dropped out of the labor force entirely has exploded by 7.3 million since June 2009, an IBD analysis of BLS data show. Some aged into retirement, but most either signed up for disability, stayed in school, moved back in with parents, or just quit looking for a job.



    The loopy liberals are desperately trying to hid Barack Obama's TRUE record. ... "The economy created just 80,000 jobs in June, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported Friday. But that same month, 85,000 workers left the workforce entirely to enroll in the Social Security Disability Insurance program, according to the Social Security Administration."
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    Re: Democrats now want welfare to become a way of life for people who do not want to

    JC, let me ask you something.

    Do you think it's a good idea to make the unemployed perform community service or volunteer work to be entitled to unemployment benefits?

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    Re: Democrats now want welfare to become a way of life for people who do not want to

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    JC, let me ask you something.

    Do you think it's a good idea to make the unemployed perform community service or volunteer work to be entitled to unemployment benefits?

    Paying unemployed people from government funds to perform needed work in the public sector?
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    Sounds good to me.
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    Re: Democrats now want welfare to become a way of life for people who do not want to

    Why do we have to work jobs that we hate? Why do we have to work period? It should be an option, not forced upon everyone. Life is precious, why waste so much of it doing labor? Being away from home, our loved ones, our things, our everything to do work. Such an old philosophy.

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    Re: Democrats now want welfare to become a way of life for people who do not want to

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    JC, let me ask you something.

    Do you think it's a good idea to make the unemployed perform community service or volunteer work to be entitled to unemployment benefits?
    Maybe. For the first two months no, after that yes, and with increasing hours per week required. The same should be true of ANY public assistance. The idea that simply existing and lacking the means to support yourself and your dependents, somehow entitles you to a share of the wages of all others, is not good public policy. Aid for the retired and disabled, such as SS/Medicare, is one thing but aid for ALL is quite another.
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    Re: Democrats now want welfare to become a way of life for people who do not want to

    I'm waiting for JC to make a statement before responding to anything else.

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    Re: Democrats now want welfare to become a way of life for people who do not want to

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post

    JC, let me ask you something.

    Do you think it's a good idea to make the unemployed perform community service or volunteer work to be entitled to unemployment benefits?
    Thank you for asking.

    It is obvious you are a very intelligent person by asking this question rather than stating a political position.

    The answer is "yes". When the unemployed people perform community service they develop a sense of pride in their accomplishments. Also, studies have shown when minority communities are well maintained, the violent crime rates in the neighborhood go way down. This is known as the "broken window" theory.

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    Re: Democrats now want welfare to become a way of life for people who do not want to

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    Why do we have to work jobs that we hate? Why do we have to work period? It should be an option, not forced upon everyone. Life is precious, why waste so much of it doing labor? Being away from home, our loved ones, our things, our everything to do work. Such an old philosophy.
    Welcome to the U.S. You have to <death and taxes>.
    No one is forcing you to work at a job.
    No one is forcing you to work at a job you hate.
    Working is an option.
    How much of your limited life you spend on labor is largely up to you.

    If you believe this message is an error, please respond. Else, please incorporate these facts into your worldview.

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