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Thread: UN Arms Treaty could put US gun owners in foreign sights, say critics

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    Re: UN Arms Treaty could put US gun owners in foreign sights, say critics

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    Germany's fear of the Jews

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    Re: UN Arms Treaty could put US gun owners in foreign sights, say critics

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    Germany's fear of the Jews

    America's fear of the Japanese.
    Those are your examples? Really? If thats the best you can do you shouldn't have waisted your time.

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    Re: UN Arms Treaty could put US gun owners in foreign sights, say critics

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Care to post some examples?
    Basically any persecution of minorities.
    The McCarthy era.


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    Re: UN Arms Treaty could put US gun owners in foreign sights, say critics

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Those are your examples?....
    yeah, do you have anything to counter them?

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    Re: UN Arms Treaty could put US gun owners in foreign sights, say critics

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    yeah, do you have anything to counter them?
    Opposition to this treaty equates to the holocaust? LAMO!

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    Re: UN Arms Treaty could put US gun owners in foreign sights, say critics

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Based on what? And why would the United States sign such an agreement that required us to disarm our populous?
    The US could not sign such as treaty as is. Nothing on Earth can override the Constitution except an amendment to it.
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    Re: UN Arms Treaty could put US gun owners in foreign sights, say critics

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    The US could not sign such as treaty as is. Nothing on Earth can override the Constitution except an amendment to it.
    Not so, as international treaties are "on par" with the U.S. constitutional and override ALL state/local laws.

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    Re: UN Arms Treaty could put US gun owners in foreign sights, say critics

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Not so, as international treaties are "on par" with the U.S. constitutional and override ALL state/local laws.

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    the USC cannot be overridden by a treaty.

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    Re: UN Arms Treaty could put US gun owners in foreign sights, say critics

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    the USC cannot be overridden by a treaty.
    I never said that, I said that state/local laws can be overriden by a treaty. We NOW readily accept STATE and CITY "infringment" of the right to keep an bear arms, by allowing the states to issue "permits" for large fees to actually exercise these "rights of the people", it is but a TINY step to let the UN do so as well.
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    Re: UN Arms Treaty could put US gun owners in foreign sights, say critics

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    the USC cannot be overridden by a treaty.
    If we didn't currently have a president who hates our costitution, I wouldn't be concerned.

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