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    Re: UN Arms Treaty could put US gun owners in foreign sights, say critics

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    I've got plenty of friends who are or were military, over beers once one who is older than me told me about the Clinton era when we went into Africa trying to aid a NATO relief mission. The warlords opened fire on a crowd of displaced citizens who were trying to get the relief supplies dropped and the NATO forces tried to intervene, but due to ROEs at the time they had to call in permission to fire back at the warlords which was denied, our contingent watched the other nation members getting plastered and all looked around and basically said "**** this, if we can't fire back we'll just watch, we aren't getting murdered for these ROEs". I would assume it's still the same problem now.
    I remember the same thing happening in Israel when things between them and Palestine escalated. I can't remember when it was, but I remember a lot of concern over the Palestinians having missiles. It was before I enlisted. What I do remember is that the blue helmets couldn't return fire, so they gtfo. I would have too, honestly. No point in standing around getting shot by Israelis, and Hezbollah to keep a non-existent peace you can't even enforce. Their ROE sucks, since they aren't even allowed to defend themselves.
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    Re: UN Arms Treaty could put US gun owners in foreign sights, say critics

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It hasn't been written yet. That's what you've claimed, anyway. Now, you asking me to show you the text, knowing that it hasn't been written?
    do you think its intelligent & mature to soo strongly oppose a treaty that hasn't even been written yet?

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    Re: UN Arms Treaty could put US gun owners in foreign sights, say critics

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    do you think its intelligent & mature to soo strongly oppose a treaty that hasn't even been written yet?
    Judging by the past performance of the UN? Uh...yes!
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: UN Arms Treaty could put US gun owners in foreign sights, say critics

    Quote Originally Posted by Lokiate View Post
    I remember the same thing happening in Israel when things between them and Palestine escalated. I can't remember when it was, but I remember a lot of concern over the Palestinians having missiles. It was before I enlisted. What I do remember is that the blue helmets couldn't return fire, so they gtfo. I would have too, honestly. No point in standing around getting shot by Israelis, and Hezbollah to keep a non-existent peace you can't even enforce. Their ROE sucks, since they aren't even allowed to defend themselves.
    Are those the same UN troops that aided and abetted Palestinian fighters during the last Israeli-Palestinian war?
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    Re: UN Arms Treaty could put US gun owners in foreign sights, say critics

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    NATO was a military organization built to stop Soviet infiltration in Europe and the North Atlantic. Not as peacekeepers or international law enforcement.
    What was SATO, then? Wurnt too many Soviets in South America.
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    Re: UN Arms Treaty could put US gun owners in foreign sights, say critics

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Mein Kampf, The Communist Manifesto and The Final Solution weren't written yet at one time, too. How did your attitude work out for us, then?!?



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    Re: UN Arms Treaty could put US gun owners in foreign sights, say critics

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    History has also taught is that that point is just a tad too late!
    History has taught us fear over nothing creates **** storms.


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    Re: UN Arms Treaty could put US gun owners in foreign sights, say critics

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Are those the same UN troops that aided and abetted Palestinian fighters during the last Israeli-Palestinian war?
    I don't remember hearing anything about it, but if they did it wouldn't surprise me. Europe isn't exactly partial to Israel.
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    Re: UN Arms Treaty could put US gun owners in foreign sights, say critics

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    History has taught us fear over nothing creates **** storms.
    Care to post some examples?

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    Re: UN Arms Treaty could put US gun owners in foreign sights, say critics

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Care to post some examples?
    Germany's fear of the Jews

    America's fear of the Japanese.

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