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    Re: UN Arms Treaty could put US gun owners in foreign sights, say critics

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I don't hate Obama. I hate his policies.
    um, you called Obama a "traitor".

    sounds like you hate the man

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    Re: UN Arms Treaty could put US gun owners in foreign sights, say critics

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    um, you called Obama a "traitor".

    sounds like you hate the man
    When did I call Obama a traitor?

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    Re: UN Arms Treaty could put US gun owners in foreign sights, say critics

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    When did I call Obama a traitor?
    right here:

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    Anyone who would knowingly undermine American forces that are fighting on any given battlefield, is a traitor.

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    Re: UN Arms Treaty could put US gun owners in foreign sights, say critics

    Let me demonstrate the difference between actual foreign policy and partisan bull****. The link below for the Heritage Foundations analysis of the treaty.

    U.N. Arms Trade Treaty's Criteria for Transfers Pose Problems for the U.S.

    They argue against the basic framework of the treaty, claiming that it will unduly hinder U.S. policy and do little to stop authoritarian regimes. In addition to providing criticism, they also provide an alternative course of action.

    Now I can't say I agree with some of the Heritage foundations arguments, but I give them credit for making a serious proposal that is actually based on reality. This "the U.N. wants to steal your guns and molest your dog" nonsense is utter garbage that has no place in real foreign policy discussion.

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    Re: UN Arms Treaty could put US gun owners in foreign sights, say critics

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    right here:
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Unbelievable!!!!!!

    So, point out where I was specifically talking about Obama. Or, are you claiming that Obama knowingly undermined American forces on the battlefield?

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    Re: UN Arms Treaty could put US gun owners in foreign sights, say critics

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Unbelievable!!!!!!

    So, point out where I was specifically talking about Obama. Or, are you claiming that Obama knowingly undermined American forces on the battlefield?
    that was YOUR accusation.

    and yes, you were talking about President Obama.

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    Re: UN Arms Treaty could put US gun owners in foreign sights, say critics

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Let me demonstrate the difference between actual foreign policy and partisan bull****. The link below for the Heritage Foundations analysis of the treaty.

    U.N. Arms Trade Treaty's Criteria for Transfers Pose Problems for the U.S.

    They argue against the basic framework of the treaty, claiming that it will unduly hinder U.S. policy and do little to stop authoritarian regimes. In addition to providing criticism, they also provide an alternative course of action.

    Now I can't say I agree with some of the Heritage foundations arguments, but I give them credit for making a serious proposal that is actually based on reality. This "the U.N. wants to steal your guns and molest your dog" nonsense is utter garbage that has no place in real foreign policy discussion.
    The problem is that there are mission statements by the U.N. for weapons reduction, including those made, those to be made, and future limitations. If this treaty is open there is possible lattitude for forcible disarmament, this isn't a partisan thing, this is a logical exercise not without merit.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: UN Arms Treaty could put US gun owners in foreign sights, say critics

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    that was YOUR accusation.

    and yes, you were talking about President Obama.
    Oh really? You readin' my mind now?

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    Re: UN Arms Treaty could put US gun owners in foreign sights, say critics

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Oh really? You readin' my mind now?
    nope, just following the discussion.

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    Re: UN Arms Treaty could put US gun owners in foreign sights, say critics

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    nope, just following the discussion.
    Making something out of nothing is more like it.
    Last edited by apdst; 07-12-12 at 05:18 PM.

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