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    Re: UN Arms Treaty could put US gun owners in foreign sights, say critics

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, you admit that the treaty hasn't been written and there's no way to prove that it won't affect our gun rights here in the states?
    There is no reason to suppose that it will, since the resolution it will be based on specifically excludes it.
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    Re: UN Arms Treaty could put US gun owners in foreign sights, say critics

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    how about we wait for the treaty to be finalized before we pass judgement?
    Kinda like Obamacare?

    No, I suggest we protest the treaty long before it is put on paper. After it's written, it might just be too late.

    I know you hate private gun ownership, so you are hoping the treaty will outlaw guns, however I'm not taking the chance that it won't.

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    Re: UN Arms Treaty could put US gun owners in foreign sights, say critics

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    There is no reason to suppose that it will, since the resolution it will be based on specifically excludes it.
    There are already weapons trafficing laws in place. Why not just enforce those?

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    Re: UN Arms Treaty could put US gun owners in foreign sights, say critics

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Yeah, he was.....
    prove it, with evidence.

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    Re: UN Arms Treaty could put US gun owners in foreign sights, say critics

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    How about we prevent any slippery slopes and just not ratify the treaty? It's called, "dilligence". A word that an Army officer should be very familiar with.

    If I'm wrong, then no harm has been done. If you're wrong, it could be the beginning of tyranny. Are you willing to take that chance? I'm not.
    What I find funny is that people want a treaty signed because it's the U.N. without even asking questions. How many people would sign a dotted line and then ask for the details on a contract? That would be a very stupid thing to do on an individual level and possibly catastrophic on a national one.
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    Re: UN Arms Treaty could put US gun owners in foreign sights, say critics

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Kinda like Obamacare?

    No, I suggest we protest the treaty long before it is put on paper. After it's written, it might just be too late.

    I know you hate private gun ownership, so you are hoping the treaty will outlaw guns, however I'm not taking the chance that it won't.
    Protest something before you even know what it is. You call that "due diligence"? The prudent thing would be to actually figure out what it says, and what it doesn't, before you pass any judgment at all.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: UN Arms Treaty could put US gun owners in foreign sights, say critics

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    ...I know you hate private gun ownership, so you are hoping the treaty will outlaw guns, however I'm not taking the chance that it won't.
    I believe & wish for none of these things.

    don't lie about my comments or beliefs

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    Re: UN Arms Treaty could put US gun owners in foreign sights, say critics

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Yeah, he was. There was a DNA match done on his known surviving relatives and it came up that the match has a specific set known to only Berbers and Eastern European Jews. He was a pale skin tone so the Berbers are probably out.
    Very true. Great job!

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    Re: UN Arms Treaty could put US gun owners in foreign sights, say critics

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    let us know when our financial & social conditions are even CLOSE to that of Germany during the 1920s & early 1930s.
    We already have the possibility of hyperinflation according to many economists on the left and right. That was the beginning of the end of the Weimar Republic.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: UN Arms Treaty could put US gun owners in foreign sights, say critics

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, you admit that the treaty hasn't been written and there's no way to prove that it won't affect our gun rights here in the states?
    it is absurd for you to ask someone to prove a negative.

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