Taliban shoot woman 9 times in public execution as men cheer

Manc Skipper said:

Bloodthirsty crowds cheering executions, it's appalling...

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This is your rebuttle to shooting this woman, in the back, because of the MALES religious belief? Because the MALES decided they either both wanted her or they'd both had "had" her, and I'm sure she had no choice either way, and were thus damaged by her being "used"?

Rick Perry on the Death Penalty? IYO, this equates to what took place in the original video? If so, where was her trial held? Who were her jurors? Oh, I guess we saw it all take place in the video.

Manc Skipper said:

Bloodthirsty crowds cheering executions, it's appalling...

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When they are gathered in a stadium, cheering the executioner, and shouting glory be to God, as they watch the victim get stoned to death, then come back, and we'll talk.

Manc Skipper said:

Bloodthirsty crowds cheering executions, it's appalling...

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People supporting the death penalty is a bit different than cheering over someone pumping slugs into a person for adultery. In fact, the entire comparison comes off as rather bizarre, to say the least

Misterveritis said:

There are generally two major sides in war. One side hides behind women and children. It is not our side. One side intentionally targets civilians. It is not our side.

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Hiroshima and My Lai and various other crimes would beg to differ.

What about Hiroshima? August 6, 1945? That attack combined with the attack on Nagasaki ended the war with Japan.

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Targeted innocent civilians

What about Agent Orange? That was intended to kill plants.

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Spread over civilian farm land and civilian populations purposely resulted in massive casualties.

What about My Lai? That was in 1967. This is an indication that terror is not used as a weapon against civilians. This event was rare.

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Blatant murder of innocent civilans.

Various declassified documents would beg to differ.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War_Crimes_Working_Group

Misterveritis said:

I wrote this in response to your comments, "Are you having difficulty keeping up with your thoughts? I blame it on the poor threading available on this site. You told me I should read some Marxist and socialist philosophy. I have. It was a part of knowing my enemy. Marxism has "evolved" over the 19th and 20th centuries. It took on three major "flavors". Soviet, Chinese, and European. The one term Marxist flexible president Barrack Hussein Obama has brought the US to the European brand of Marxism.

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Your understanding of Marxism is pitiful. All 3 "flavors" of Marxism all carry the basic theories of Marxism and the stages to reach communism.
Name one thing Barack Obama that is in your words "European Marxist"?

That tells me you have little experience with the difference between a seductive, but incorrect theory, and its actual historical implementations in the real world. People are harassed, harried, imprisoned and murdered every time it is tried in the real world.

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No... No.. No....
Marxism is a theory of how to look at the world through a historic materialist theory. Marxism suggests that communism is inevitable via workers revolution, more specifically the industrial workers. He believes that first there must be federalism. Then there must come capitalism. After the major contradictions of capitalism have been shown to the workers and the workers understand them, then capitalism will implode on itself. From them the workers will rise up in a violent struggle, but before the a consensus group of revolutionaries must create a party and the workers will flock to this party as a tool. The workers will then rise up and overthrow traditional society and create a new order the order of the dictatorship of the proletariat, which is in fact when the workers themselves rule society in a governmental fashion. Socialism will be established and a state will be created of workers and they will run this state via the dictatorship of the proletariat. From this the government will slowly wither away until there is no state because Marxists few the state as a form of oppression, then they will reach communism.

If you believe Obama is doing any of the above i have lost all hope in humanity.

Marxism is a mental disorder. Capitalism is the cure.

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Marxism is actually a very complex ideology to fully understand. I dont believe someone with a "metal disorder" can fathom the very basic ideas of Marxism. I think you might be a prime example.

Are you disagreeing with me?

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Yes

Do you disagree that Marxism as implemented in the real world became Marxism-Leninism in the Soviet Union with disastrous consequences?

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Im syaing Marxism was never implemented in the USSR

Do you disagree that Marxism as implemented in the real world became Maoism in Communist China with disastrous consequences?

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Im saying Marxism was never implemented in China

Do you disagree that Marxism as implemented in the real world became European socialism (under a wide variety of names all disguised to conceal its roots) with current disastrous consequences?

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Marxism was never implemented in Europe except for the Paris Commune.
"European socialism" is no where near Marxism. Its a social democracy. A mixture of capitalism with a strong public sector and strong safety nets... Not even close to Marxism.

And the one term Marxist flexible president Barrack Hussein Obama is illegally pushing us into the European Socialist brand of Marxism. He has no right to do so.

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Right.. Sure he is. Except any political scientist, philosopher, Marxist themselves and professors would strongly disagree with you.

Misterveritis said:

Those are your words.

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Actually if you can remember it was you.

But you do have a point. The nation's first socialist president, FDR, did damage the US economy substantially. The results are with us today.

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So in your fantasy world the Great Depression was cause by FDR?

I cannot help that you cling to a failed philosophy and economic model. It has never worked in the real world. It cannot. This childlike reverence for a fairy tale will fade if you are lucky once you become a mature adult.

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No one is clinging to it here bud.

Billy the Kid said:

That story is getting harder and harder to sell, IMO.

How peaceful can you be when the religion condones these actions against women?

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Uhhh because the religion its self is being exploited.... And sadly when people see this they are going to say "well Islam is violent" when the vast majority of people who follow Islam do not condone these actions.

TheDemSocialist said:

Uhhh because the religion its self is being exploited.... And sadly when people see this they are going to say "well Islam is violent" when the vast majority of people who follow Islam do not condone these actions.

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There are some very serious issues in the islamic world exactly because large majorities support these thing. If you want I can re-quote some polls indicating this, but I already provided them at least twice

Gardener said:

Yep. Since you have a culture where people routinely marry their close family members and are seriously inbred, the likelihood of them embracing a philosophy based upon ideals instead of blood is nearly nil.

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Stay on topic. We're talking about the Afghans, not the southern US

sangha said:

Stay on topic. We're talking about the Afghans, not the southern US

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quality over quantity, mate

TheDemSocialist said:

Uhhh because the religion its self is being exploited.... And sadly when people see this they are going to say "well Islam is violent" when the vast majority of people who follow Islam do not condone these actions.

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I'd like to believe this is a peacful religion; I've heard it so, so often. But I'm really, really having a difficult time when you see most Islamic countries treat women/girls like possessions/cattle.

They may be a little different in the US, but, IMO, only because the US law will prosecute them for their religious actions against women/girls.

I won't be led 'down the rosey", when their religion still believes women/girls can be killed because they have "dishonored" the family by living their lives as they see fit and not as the "male" believes they should. It's just not in me to go along with slavery in any gods name - sorry.

Billy the Kid said:

I'd like to believe this is a peacful religion; I've heard it so, so often. But I'm really, really having a difficult time when you see most Islamic countries treat women/girls like possessions/cattle.

They may be a little different in the US, but, IMO, only because the US law will prosecute them for their religious actions against women/girls.

I won't be led 'down the rosey", when their religion still believes women/girls can be killed because they have "dishonored" the family by living their lives as they see fit and not as the "male" believes they should. It's just not in me to go along with slavery in any gods name - sorry.

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Islam is a violent religion. The discrimination against non-muslims and women coming from Islam are because of Islam itself. Islam is discriminative against people, it isn't a peaceful religion or some sort.

Feel free to call it a hate cult. There are a lot of verses from Qur'an I can post here to show you Islam's dark side.

lizzie said:

They essentially have no choice, unless they want to risk any semblance of respect and acceptance they have in their society, and far worse, to be considered an infidel and an enemy by others in their culture.

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I agree

Those of us who have grown up, or been exposed significantly to western culture, have no idea how primal fear can be, because we've had lives of relative ease and freedom to think and be whatever we wish.

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It depends upon one's experience, but, freedom to think and be whatever we wish carries a price and in my experience a high one...

Billy the Kid said:

I'd like to believe this is a peacful religion; I've heard it so, so often. But I'm really, really having a difficult time when you see most Islamic countries treat women/girls like possessions/cattle.

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When you make wide generalizations like this, you're bound to be wrong.

Hatuey said:

When you make wide generalizations like this, you're bound to be wrong.

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Well in this case I'll side with the women/girls. When a religion says women/girls are unworthy and have no rights and are treated like property or animals, the I'll gladly be wrong. Thanks.

Billy the Kid said:

Well in this case I'll side with the women/girls. When a religion says women/girls are unworthy and have no rights and are treated like property or animals, the I'll gladly be wrong. Thanks.

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For all you know it was a man dressed up in a Burka, then executed in a humiliating manner.

Or it was a woman convicted of murder that was executed 8 years ago.

You sure have allot of trust in the Globalist media.

Sparky said:

I find it utterly disgusting how ALL LIBERALS support these barbarians.

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I find it utterly disgusting how ALL conservatives dance every time another xtian nutjob kills an abortion doctor, bombs a clinic, or othewise kills because GOD says so.
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I have been called a Liberal, by those in your party...and I would very much enjoy the destruction, or at least avoidance of these "Barbarians", Christian and Muslim.

Matt Foley said:

For all you know it was a man dressed up in a Burka, then executed in a humiliating manner.

Or it was a woman convicted of murder that was executed 8 years ago.

You sure have allot of trust in the Globalist media.

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I find it utterly disgusting how ALL Whatever the hell you actually are support these barbarians.

sharon said:

You can't bomb people into democracy.. We had a huge advantage over a country crippled by two decades of war and sanctions. Instead of a war we also had huge leverage thru diplomatic channels.

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Actually, that's not true. We bombed both Germany and Japan into democracies.

Serenity said:

How many times has she been mentioned Connor?

This situation is not complex. There's nothing complex about it. Crazy extremists murdered a woman. Do people not understand how stupid it is to pretend to be experts on the random things that go on in Afghanistan by idiots like this? The fact that the media is reporting this story is pure propaganda. You think they really care about this woman? How can no one see this? This would be akin to the Taliban reporting stories in Afghanistan of some random dumb **** American in Arkansas who kills his wife and 3 kids.

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While all of his neighbors stood around and cheered? Yeah, I think that would get some news coverage.

Manc Skipper said:

Bloodthirsty crowds cheering executions, it's appalling...

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Hard for you to believe, but there actually is a difference between a legal execution in the United States and the random murder of a woman for supposed adultery. I don't happen to support the death penalty, but this comparison is ridiculous.

Billy the Kid said:

Well in this case I'll side with the women/girls. When a religion says women/girls are unworthy and have no rights and are treated like property or animals, the I'll gladly be wrong. Thanks.

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Oh you mean like Christianity does in the Bible? Or are we only picking the religious verses which suit you?

Matt Foley said:

For all you know it was a man dressed up in a Burka, then executed in a humiliating manner.

Or it was a woman convicted of murder that was executed 8 years ago.

You sure have allot of trust in the Globalist media.

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Right. Thanks for all the evidence not shown in the video or covered by the article in the link.

Hatuey said:

Oh you mean like Christianity does in the Bible? Or are we only picking the religious verses which suit you?

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Didn't pick any verses from the Bible. You must be thinking of someone else. Just to clarify, I was raised by an Atheist, so I really am not a "verse" kinda person.

I'm assuming you have a distaste for Christianity, but I'm open to view a video or read a linked article showing Christians doing the same. Or if you have a verse, since you seem to know one exists, that states your point, I'll take a look. Thanks.

Hatuey said:

When you make wide generalizations like this, you're bound to be wrong.

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the majority of islamic states are in a pretty sorry state, and even the more moderate ones like Indonesia seem to be experiencing some concerning social trends. Though I don't think it can be solely blamed on islam, I do think the unique view that islam takes make it just as much political philosophy as it is religion, and that the cultural, and historical, context it developed in was very violent. And that these shaped elements of the religion that make it very easy to justify and promote violence (more so than most other religions).

Though those people who assume there would be no issue in these countries without Islam are ignoring the fact that the problems are simply being interpreted through islam, not originating from it.