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    Re: Taliban shoot woman 9 times in public execution as men cheer

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    With the addendum that the Pathan demographics that the Taliban relies upon to support its war effort are not the majority of Afghani's.
    Isn't there some disagreement on that, since no hard measurements are available?

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    Re: Taliban shoot woman 9 times in public execution as men cheer

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post

    For the most part, my experience of Muslims is that they tend to care about the same things that you might care about.. family, earning a living and so on.
    Of course they care about the same things as you and I. The problem is that their religion dominates all aspects of their lives, and there is no room for individuality and freedom, if followed in a true and consistent manner, and according to the religious dictates that are read and taught.
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    Re: Taliban shoot woman 9 times in public execution as men cheer

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post

    For the most part, my experience of Muslims is that they tend to care about the same things that you might care about.. family, earning a living and so on.
    I do agree with you! but oh boy! when religious fanaticism kicks in in that region of the world.... well...it doesn't get sicker than that

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    Re: Taliban shoot woman 9 times in public execution as men cheer

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    Isn't there some disagreement on that, since no hard measurements are available?
    Pashtuns are likely a plurality of Afghan society, but even amongst this group what I meant is that support for the Taliban is a minority and most support is not necessarily ideological in nature. But yes census reporting has been very difficult.

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    Re: Taliban shoot woman 9 times in public execution as men cheer

    Excellent propaganda to keep US troops policing Afghanistan. Two thumbs up, truly.

    Check out this video of a MAN being executed by the Taliban, but I don't hear nobody crying crocodile tears over it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

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    Re: Taliban shoot woman 9 times in public execution as men cheer

    Would it help if we said both were wrong? Not that I think it matters, because the reason this was made a post I presume is to highlight the unique sort of atrocity and the magnitude of its pervasiveness against an entire gender.

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    Re: Taliban shoot woman 9 times in public execution as men cheer

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Of course they care about the same things as you and I. The problem is that their religion dominates all aspects of their lives, and there is no room for individuality and freedom, if followed in a true and consistent manner, and according to the religious dictates that are read and taught.
    the problem with this line of thinking is it ignores that religion is interpreted, and those interpretations can vary widely.

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    Re: Taliban shoot woman 9 times in public execution as men cheer

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    the problem with this line of thinking is it ignores that religion is interpreted, and those interpretations can vary widely.
    Interpretations can vary widely in regards to certain passages. When it comes to the basic rules for living, there is no room for doubt.

    When one's religious text tells you who to marry, how to dress, what to eat, which hand to use, who and what is clean, or unclean, whom you can socialize with, when you can divorce, and many more details of how to live, there is no room for freedom of thought or expression. This leads to a controlled existence, which may be comfortable to those who merely wish to follow and not question. For those who have an active brain and imagination, it's difficult to tow the line without getting frustrated and/or destructive.
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    Re: Taliban shoot woman 9 times in public execution as men cheer

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Interpretations can vary widely in regards to certain passages. When it comes to the basic rules for living, there is no room for doubt.
    A large aspect of interpretation is the ability to completely ignore, or totally reinvent, age old dogma. Not sure why anyone would try to ignore or dismiss that

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    Re: Taliban shoot woman 9 times in public execution as men cheer

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    I respect your personal perspectives, however, there are many more variables at play in this instance and to generalize would be to obfuscate the issues inherent here which may speak to fundamentalism and/or other such issues.
    Oh I am NO expert on Afghanistan.. All Islam is fundamental.. see Five Pillars of Islam.. The meaning is different from Christian or Western notions of "fundamentalism"...

    Islam is not... ummm.. monolithic.. and many fundamentalists are also moderate.

    You hear alot about Wahhabis, but Wahhabi is NOT a sect.. its like calling someone a Calvinist or a Unitarian.. They choose to simplify.. It was reaction against the innovations introduced during the Ottoman Empire.

    Most "Wahhabis" are not stupid guys with scraggly beards and dirty thobes who routinely oppress women.

    It has taken me most of a lifetime to come to these conclusions.. ( I am Christian) and I am just not good at explaining. The last conversation I had with a young Saudi.. a couple of hours.. was about the Muslim view of Jesus and human rights. Fascinating to me.

    And when we wrapped it up.. He said, "Remember.. you cannot talk to one Muslim and know Islam."

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