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    California Senate vote keeps bullet train alive(edited)

    Construction to begin in Central Valley.

    By Chris Megerian and Ralph Vartabedian, Los Angeles Times
    July 6, 2012, 6:23 p.m.

    SACRAMENTO The state Senate authorized initial funding for California's high-speed rail project, handing a victory to Gov. Jerry Brown and the Obama administration, which have been pushing hard for the first-in-the-nation bullet train.

    It is unclear when construction on the largest infrastructure project in the country can begin; the state still needs a series of regulatory approvals to start the first 130 miles of track in the Central Valley. The plan also faces lawsuits by agriculture interests and potential opposition by major freight railroads.

    But proponents rejoiced at Friday's narrow 21-16 vote, which allocates roughly $8 billion for the first segment of track and related transportation projects. Barring insurmountable obstacles, Californians eventually will be able to ride a bullet train traveling as fast as 220 mph between Los Angeles and San Francisco rather than fly or drive on aging highways.


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    Re: California bullet train still a go

    California is billions of dollars in debt and they want to build a segment that costs 8 billion. Do these clowns in California realize that they are in debt?
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    Re: California bullet train still a go

    $14 billion deficit.

    where do they plan on getting the money for this?

    selling sand?

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    Re: California bullet train still a go

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    California is billions of dollars in debt and they want to build a segment that costs 8 billion. Do these clowns in California realize that they are in debt?
    As with so many people, their idea of budgeting and fiscal responsibility is to spend like crack whores and count on a rich uncle to die and bail them out or hit the lottery. Apparently they remain unfazed at maintaining the debt and operating cost of their current mass transport system and see doubling down as a solution to all their ills...

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    Insanity. Sadly, Cali continues its march off the cliff. This project will do nothing but generate red ink. It will NEVER be a cash generator for the state. Disgustingly, the California legislature and Governor choose pressure from DC Democrats and special interests over the citizens of California.

    Whats even more ironic, this is coming as the state continues to fire teachers and other state employees. Doubt you'll see the unions massing at the statehouse anytime soon.

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    Re: California bullet train still a go

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishstyx View Post
    Insanity. Sadly, Cali continues its march off the cliff. This project will do nothing but generate red ink. It will NEVER be a cash generator for the state. Disgustingly, the California legislature and Governor choose pressure from DC Democrats and special interests over the citizens of California.

    Whats even more ironic, this is coming as the state continues to fire teachers and other state employees. Doubt you'll see the unions massing at the statehouse anytime soon.
    I would not worry about California. They will get Federal dollars under the Obama guise of giving money to states for teachers, firefighters and cops. When anyone with half a brain understands that money sent to states is fungible and can be used/ wasted as the state wants.

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    Re: California bullet train still a go

    Having travel by the shinkansen in Japan, its a great way to travel. We cannot pretend that we are going to start in the direction of getting away from automobiles while bashing forward looking projects like this at the same time.
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    Re: California bullet train still a go

    budget $4.6 billion (in long term low interest bonds) to be able to inject $7.9 billion into a down economy
    and wind up with a state of the art mass transit system
    seems like a smart idea
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    Re: California bullet train still a go

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Having travel by the shinkansen in Japan, its a great way to travel. We cannot pretend that we are going to start in the direction of getting away from automobiles while bashing forward looking projects like this at the same time.
    A forward looking project is not something that puts you further into the red and more into the red to maintain it each year.If California was not in massive debt and had money to spare,could make a profit from it then it would be a good project.
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    Re: California bullet train still a go

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    i think we might be doing it wrong.
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