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    Re: California bullet train still a go

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    Three Mile Island...Chernobyl...Fukushima. The environmental movement will not allow any more nuclear power plants to be built in California. The nuke plants already in California are being shut down. So there is no chance nuclear power will be used to electrify the rails for the train to no where. So where will the power come from? New power plants of any sort are going to be built in this state. None. Where will the power come from?

    my community is now the country's nuclear design center
    it's a local growth industry
    safe designs are emerging as the template for the future
    and opposition to nuclear is on the wane (here, not in japan)
    you do know that all the power consumed in california does not have to originate within my native state don't you
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    Re: California bullet train still a go

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    not if you have smart building codes - and enforce them
    It really doesn't work like that. The cities want to expand in "Metro" districts, and this allows them to sprawl on out. Developers and moneymen are all for this. City and county councils climb right aboard. Building codes have nothing whatsoever to do with it. Perhaps you're thinking of zoning? But since the area has already been emminent domained to allow for the train, it's already zoned for development (they want people to ride and live near the train).

    The whole thing is stupid insane. Show me one rail commuter system that is making money, or just breaking even.

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    Re: California bullet train still a go

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    my community is now the country's nuclear design center
    it's a local growth industry
    safe designs are emerging as the template for the future
    and opposition to nuclear is on the wane (here, not in japan)
    you do know that all the power consumed in california does not have to originate within my native state don't you
    Actually, no, it's not waning. Still quite a lot of opposition to nuclear. We know the problems, have heard the safe design speeches before and know no matter how you design the thing you still have no answer for hot releases and waste.

    As for the power in California - that you don't self-generate your own supply is what has cost you tech business after tech business. That's why they're all up here in Oregon now.

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    Re: California bullet train still a go

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    It really doesn't work like that. The cities want to expand in "Metro" districts, and this allows them to sprawl on out. Developers and moneymen are all for this. City and county councils climb right aboard. Building codes have nothing whatsoever to do with it. Perhaps you're thinking of zoning? But since the area has already been emminent domained to allow for the train, it's already zoned for development (they want people to ride and live near the train).

    The whole thing is stupid insane. Show me one rail commuter system that is making money, or just breaking even.
    how about two?
    There are two places in the world where railís success is not accompanied by excess costs and is felt throughout the urban area: Tokyo (Tokyo-Yokohama) and Osaka (Osaka-Kobe-Kyoto).

    Violating the old transit myth that there are no profitable systems, data from the Union of International Public Transport (the international equivalent of the American Public Transportation Association) indicate both systems earn annual profits of approximately 30 percent over operating and capital expense.
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    Re: California bullet train still a go

    Arrgh - in the US, you know where we're building this one.

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    Re: California bullet train still a go

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Arrgh - in the US, you know where we're building this one.
    here is what you asked?
    Show me one rail commuter system that is making money, or just breaking even.
    i answered the question you asked; not the one you would have preferred to have asked


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    Re: California bullet train still a go

    Unless the run it to San Diego I don't want it. This LA San Fran thing is BS.

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    Re: California bullet train still a go

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    There are two places in the world where rail’s success is not accompanied by excess costs and is felt throughout the urban area: Tokyo (Tokyo-Yokohama) and Osaka (Osaka-Kobe-Kyoto).
    2 whole examples. And in Japan too, where population density is in the extreme and you don't have to be worried about being mugged while railing it.
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    Re: California bullet train still a go

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Foley View Post
    Oh so Americans don't know nothin' about no 'lectricity or them train tracks cause we hadn't been res'chin' it.
    On the contrary. I know we COULD do it, if we had the will. That is what is so frustratng, the lack of will. It is not like the America I knew as a child.
    It is like the Europeans learned from us and we just plumb forgot.
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    Re: California bullet train still a go

    Quote Originally Posted by Lokiate View Post
    Way to focus on a tree in the forest.
    Way to ignore the tree as you walk into it and smack your head on it.
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