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    Re: Payrolls In U.S. Rose 80,000 In June; Jobless Rate 8.2%

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    They haven't even passed a budget in over 1000 days. Not one of Obama's proposed budgets has passed. His last one was shot down without a single vote in it's favor.

    How embarrassing
    Except it wasn't Obama's budget. It was a severely condensed version offered by Republicans purely as a political stunt.

    Indeed.

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    Barack Obama In 2004 Attacked Bush For Weak Economy

    In a 2004 weekly radio address given when the President was still a State Senator, Obama attacked Bush for “three dismal years of job loss.” The speech sounds strikingly similar to Republican talking points used against the current President and speaks volumes to the degree in which political rhetoric is recycled.
    State Senator Obama 2004 Radio Address Attacks Bush on Dismal Economy - YouTube

    The unemployment rate for 2004 was 5.5%

    United States Unemployment Rate 1920–2010 — Infoplease.com

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    Re: Payrolls In U.S. Rose 80,000 In June; Jobless Rate 8.2%

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    Except it wasn't Obama's budget. It was a severely condensed version offered by Republicans purely as a political stunt.

    Indeed.
    Look if you're going to reply to my posts you need to have your facts straight.

    You can't just spout nonsense. Here are the facts:

    Obama budget defeated 99-0 in Senate - Washington Times

    President Obama's budget suffered a second embarrassing defeat Wednesday, when senators voted 99-0 to reject it.

    Coupled with the House's rejection in March, 414-0, that means Mr. Obama's budget has failed to win a single vote in support this year.

    Republicans forced the vote by offering the president's plan on the Senate floor.

    Democrats disputed that it was actually the president's plan, arguing that the slim amendment didn't actually match Mr. Obama's budget document, which ran thousands of pages. But Republicans said they used all of the president's numbers in the proposal, so it faithfully represented his plan.

    Sen. Jeff Sessions, Alabama Republican, even challenged Democrats to point out any errors in the numbers and he would correct them — a challenge no Democrats took up.

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    Re: Payrolls In U.S. Rose 80,000 In June; Jobless Rate 8.2%

    and dicknbush did not even sustain a financial meltdown
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: Payrolls In U.S. Rose 80,000 In June; Jobless Rate 8.2%

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Look if you're going to reply to my posts you need to have your facts straight.

    You can't just spout nonsense. Here are the facts:

    Obama budget defeated 99-0 in Senate - Washington Times
    The facts that are that the president's budget was not presented for a vote. A severely condensed version of the Obama budget was proposed by a senate republican, that was lacking in sufficient report language to even appropriate the hypothetical funds. A political stunt, no more, no less.

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    Re: Payrolls In U.S. Rose 80,000 In June; Jobless Rate 8.2%

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Look if you're going to reply to my posts you need to have your facts straight.

    You can't just spout nonsense. Here are the facts:
    Here are the facts: the amendment Republicans submitted to a vote, which you are calling Obama's budget, was not Obama's budget. It contained nothing but top-line figures with no specifics at all about how those numbers would be achieved. It's a little stunt that they've dreamed up.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

    -- Adam Smith

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    Re: Payrolls In U.S. Rose 80,000 In June; Jobless Rate 8.2%

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Denial + Politics = Entertainment at it's finest
    It is also why most people are turned off by politics.

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    Re: Payrolls In U.S. Rose 80,000 In June; Jobless Rate 8.2%

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Look if you're going to reply to my posts you need to have your facts straight.

    You can't just spout nonsense. Here are the facts:

    Obama budget defeated 99-0 in Senate - Washington Times

    A Guide to Recognizing Your Budget Stunts

    Grab on to something. Steady yourself. Today, the House of Representatives will pass the Ryan budget. The number to remember is "4." That was how many Republicans voted against Ryan's 2011 budget, when Republicans were riding higher. And two of the "nos" came from Republicans who thought the bill was too soft: Ron Paul of Texas and Walter Jones of North Carolina. One "no" came from Montana U.S. Senate candidate Denny Rehberg, and one came from West Virginia freshman David McKinley, who has to answer to a huge population of seniors. If the Ryan budget gets more than four "nos," it'll say that Republicans are more trepidatious about selling Medicare voucherization in a general election.
    But it'll pass, and it'll pass after two budget stunts failed miserably. Those stunts:

    - Rep. Mick Mulvaney, who defeated Budget chairman John Spratt for his seat, introduced an amendment consisting of the numbers and appropriations of Barack Obama's 2012 budget. "It’s not a gimmick unless what the President sent us is the same," Mulvaney snarked. "We are voting on the President’s budget. I would encourage the Democrats to embrace this landmark Democrat document and support it." (Calling a Democratic effort a "Democrat" effort is a minor swipe.)

    The amendment went down 414-0, just like an identical Republican stunt in 2011 led to a unanimous defeat of an "Obama's budget" parody. "It was a caricature of the president's budget," explained Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi on Thursday, "so we voted against it."
    - Rep. Jim Cooper of Tennessee and Rep. Steven LaTourette of Ohio, two of the last members you could really describe as moderates, collaborated on a zombie version of the Simpson-Bowles budget. Damian Paletta reports that pressure groups "appeared to be so alarmed that the budget resolution might gain momentum Wednesday night that they issued sharp news releases hours before the vote warning members not to compromise." But it wasn't clear whether they were afraid of momentum -- it was quite tough to break through the news cycle -- or whether they just wanted to set these guys right. Sixteen Republicans voted for the amendment, many of them takers of the Norquist pledge. All in all only 38 members voted for the amendment.
    Once it was shot through the head, the zombie bill took on a sort of dignity.

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    Re: Payrolls In U.S. Rose 80,000 In June; Jobless Rate 8.2%

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    What? Educate yourself: Subprime mortgage crisis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The great, teleprompter in chief, Omama blames MOST of our economic woes on the "Bush" federal income tax rate cuts, yet Obama not only keeps those BAD rates, but doubles down on federal spending AND adds SS payroll tax cuts of his own. Yes he did! Hmm...
    Obama only kept the tax cuts for the top bracket because the GOP caved on everything else in order to get them, the sluts. But just wait till after November and Obama offers to trade the riches tax cuts for the Defense budget sequestration cuts. There is going to be fireworks in the House as the T's explode and disappear in a blaze of light.

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    Re: Payrolls In U.S. Rose 80,000 In June; Jobless Rate 8.2%

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Obama only kept the tax cuts for the top bracket because the GOP caved on everything else in order to get them, the sluts. But just wait till after November and Obama offers to trade the riches tax cuts for the Defense budget sequestration cuts. There is going to be fireworks in the House as the T's explode and disappear in a blaze of light.
    It is possible that if Obama is re-elected he might try and blow up the government early to have time to get back to normalcy before the 2014 election cycle.

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