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    Re: Payrolls In U.S. Rose 80,000 In June; Jobless Rate 8.2%

    Quote Originally Posted by Keridan View Post
    I wish we had a choice this election that wasn't Bush again. Obama has already shown that his approach to fixing things is to spend 3.4 million per job and otherwise keep plugging on with Bush's policies. Romney hasn't even put forth a plan, but my money is on him offering more of the same. I wonder if we'll get a second option again in my lifetime.
    You have to look in order to find it.

    http://www.mittromney.com/jobs
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    Re: Payrolls In U.S. Rose 80,000 In June; Jobless Rate 8.2%

    Quote Originally Posted by Aberration View Post
    Clinton never balanced the budget. Bush also inherited the bills Clinton signed that were the major players in the recession. Just sayin...

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    And what has Obama done to repeal them?

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    You were being to nice. Bush inherited the Clinton Tech Bubble crash, which had a greater % impact to the NASDAQ than the housing bubble had to the NYSE. We had a recession, but bounced back. In addition if Clinton had taken the action and killed Bin Laden when he had the chance, how different would the history of the world, the US and the Bush presidency.

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    Re: Payrolls In U.S. Rose 80,000 In June; Jobless Rate 8.2%

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    You were being to nice. Bush inherited the Clinton Tech Bubble crash, which had a greater % impact to the NASDAQ than the housing bubble had to the NYSE. We had a recession, but bounced back. In addition if Clinton had taken the action and killed Bin Laden when he had the chance, how different would the history of the world, the US and the Bush presidency.
    True, Clinton did not balance the budget -- he created a surplus that was projected to go into the hundreds of billions of dollars through Bush's term.

    The dotcom bust was a joke compared to the financial meltdown that Obama inherited.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Payrolls In U.S. Rose 80,000 In June; Jobless Rate 8.2%

    Quote Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post
    You have to look in order to find it.

    Jobs and Economic Growth | Mitt Romney for President
    Thank you for the link. I do see several goals that sound good in a nice bullet-point list. However, that list and what actually happens are bound to be two very different things. I'm also not in support of everything on it.

    In general, though, the page does give him a few points in my book for having a plan. I'm not a huge fan of every layout having a huge section on "Obama's Failure" before laying out his plan, but both sides do seem to be enjoying the attacks.
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    Re: Payrolls In U.S. Rose 80,000 In June; Jobless Rate 8.2%

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Look at the bright side... at least it is positive growth and not the 700k negative growth when this administration took over. Is it good enough? Nope, but again considering the state of American politics (total and utter gridlock and negative attack talk) and the state of the world economy due to the sub-prime mortgage melt down in 2007-8, then that there was growth at all is almost impressive.
    Imagine how impressive it would be if we had an administration that wasn't slowing down job growth in the private sector.

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    Re: Payrolls In U.S. Rose 80,000 In June; Jobless Rate 8.2%

    Quote Originally Posted by Keridan View Post
    Thank you for the link. I do see several goals that sound good in a nice bullet-point list. However, that list and what actually happens are bound to be two very different things. I'm also not in support of everything on it.

    In general, though, the page does give him a few points in my book for having a plan. I'm not a huge fan of every layout having a huge section on "Obama's Failure" before laying out his plan, but both sides do seem to be enjoying the attacks.
    We've already seen Obama's plan in action, after near 4 years we're still sitting on the bottom.
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    Re: Payrolls In U.S. Rose 80,000 In June; Jobless Rate 8.2%

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    True, Clinton did not balance the budget -- he created a surplus that was projected to go into the hundreds of billions of dollars through Bush's term.

    The dotcom bust was a joke compared to the financial meltdown that Obama inherited.


    It's a shame the Democrats melt down took the country down so far. The Republicans attempted to fix it, but the Democrats fought regulation the whole way.
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    Re: Payrolls In U.S. Rose 80,000 In June; Jobless Rate 8.2%

    Some more jobs numbers:

    Job openings increased in May after plunging the prior month, easing concern the U.S. job market was faltering.

    The number of positions waiting to be filled climbed by 195,000 to 3.64 million, partially countering the 294,000 drop seen in April, the Labor Department said today in Washington. Another report showed confidence among small companies slumped in June.

    Increasing demand for workers indicates some companies see an opportunity to expand as sales improve. At the same time, the report showed firings also picked up, indicating the European debt crisis and slowing growth in emerging markets like China may be prompting some employers to cut back.

    Job Openings in U.S. Climbed in May After April Plunge: Economy - Bloomberg
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Payrolls In U.S. Rose 80,000 In June; Jobless Rate 8.2%

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Some more jobs numbers:
    Yeah, I read that earlier...good news.

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