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    Re: Payrolls In U.S. Rose 80,000 In June; Jobless Rate 8.2%

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    If every President just ran it like Business 101, we'd be in such superb shape.

    Obama has failed beyond massively. The black marxist experiment needs to end yesterday.

    And liberals need to get back to being Americans first.
    This is where we part company, friend.

    Running government like a business is a mistake. If the government raked in huge windfalls, we'd (rightfully) expect a tax cut. When a business does that, they try to do it again. Two very different things.

    I don't think that Obama's a Marxist. If he is, he's a bad one. I fail to see where his race has anything to do with anything. He's not been a very good President. But that's it.

    We all need to get back to being Americans first. That some (a minority, but some) Conservatives wanted Obama to fail is sickening. We needed him to be a success. He has not been, but it's disgusting that somebody is happy that America is still foundering because it helps his petty political game.


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    Re: Payrolls In U.S. Rose 80,000 In June; Jobless Rate 8.2%

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    This is where we part company, friend.

    Running government like a business is a mistake. If the government raked in huge windfalls, we'd (rightfully) expect a tax cut. When a business does that, they try to do it again. Two very different things.

    I don't think that Obama's a Marxist. If he is, he's a bad one. I fail to see where his race has anything to do with anything. He's not been a very good President. But that's it.

    We all need to get back to being Americans first. That some (a minority, but some) Conservatives wanted Obama to fail is sickening. We needed him to be a success. He has not been, but it's disgusting that somebody is happy that America is still foundering because it helps his petty political game.
    Real short. Even by Keynesian policy, windfalls are for rainy day funds. Regardless, running it as a business is so as to avoid massive debt.

    The issue is not short term success, or failure. Obama's plan is destined for long term ruin. I want him to fail short term, as that is the best way to avoid the certain long-term failure. Like watching your daughter fall in love with a shallow scumbag. You want her to WAKE UP before its too late.

    In closing, it does not matter if we agree that Obama is a Marxist or not. He is a complete failure. No matter the flavor.

    History will show him the Marxist.
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    Re: Payrolls In U.S. Rose 80,000 In June; Jobless Rate 8.2%

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    This is where we part company, friend.

    Running government like a business is a mistake. If the government raked in huge windfalls, we'd (rightfully) expect a tax cut. When a business does that, they try to do it again. Two very different things.

    I don't think that Obama's a Marxist. If he is, he's a bad one. I fail to see where his race has anything to do with anything. He's not been a very good President. But that's it.

    We all need to get back to being Americans first. That some (a minority, but some) Conservatives wanted Obama to fail is sickening. We needed him to be a success. He has not been, but it's disgusting that somebody is happy that America is still foundering because it helps his petty political game.
    And the problem there is not running government like a business, its the peons who would expect a tax cut because there is a surplus. Leaving the government to borrow money when we hit a recession.
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    Re: Payrolls In U.S. Rose 80,000 In June; Jobless Rate 8.2%

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    Santayana told us that those who fail to learn their history are destined to re-live it
    so, in politics, it is not bad form to examine which regimes have placed our nation at risk
    and certainly the practices of the dicknbush regime did so. especially economically
    causing a reasonable person to conclude that we should not again opt for a re-visiting of those same political policies and practices upon our nation
    If that was the case you would recognize what Bush inherited from Clinton. Bush was a big enough man not to continually blame the previous administration.
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    Re: Payrolls In U.S. Rose 80,000 In June; Jobless Rate 8.2%

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    …Presumptuous, vague and unfounded per usual.
    While off topic I’m curious, the gears in your avatar are locked motionless in perpetuity. Is this an intentional reflection of yourself or just some random cool pix?

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    Re: Payrolls In U.S. Rose 80,000 In June; Jobless Rate 8.2%

    Quote Originally Posted by Aberration View Post
    If that was the case you would recognize what Bush inherited from Clinton. Bush was a big enough man not to continually blame the previous administration.
    It would have been a little awkward continually reminding people that he inherited a balanced budget and turned it into a whopping deficit. Just sayin'....
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Payrolls In U.S. Rose 80,000 In June; Jobless Rate 8.2%

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    Not sure what enjoyment you have going back and forth with this poster. Better to just bang your head against the wall. I am sure he knows what he is saying is nonsense, just having some fun.
    I'm sure you are correct...that's why I've stopped responding to him and that other one.

    Frankly, I find their actions to be quite juvenile.
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    Re: Payrolls In U.S. Rose 80,000 In June; Jobless Rate 8.2%

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    It would have been a little awkward continually reminding people that he inherited a balanced budget and turned it into a whopping deficit. Just sayin'....
    Clinton never balanced the budget. Bush also inherited the bills Clinton signed that were the major players in the recession. Just sayin...

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    Re: Payrolls In U.S. Rose 80,000 In June; Jobless Rate 8.2%

    Quote Originally Posted by Aberration View Post
    If that was the case you would recognize what Bush inherited from Clinton. Bush was a big enough man not to continually blame the previous administration.
    Because he could not blame Clinton.. Clinton did not leave him with a recession. There was no 2 quarters of negative growth up to the Bush administration and the first few years of the Bush administration. Another right wing myth.. lie.. revisionist history making.

    However, Bush did leave the worst economy since the great depression and Obama rightfully can blame him for quite a bit of the "bad stuff"... not all off it of course. Getting out of the hole Bush dug, takes more than a few years and it will only take longer when Congress is in the hands of morons who only have their own interests and that of their masters.. aka donors interests in mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Because he could not blame Clinton.. Clinton did not leave him with a recession. There was no 2 quarters of negative growth up to the Bush administration and the first few years of the Bush administration. Another right wing myth.. lie.. revisionist history making.

    However, Bush did leave the worst economy since the great depression and Obama rightfully can blame him for quite a bit of the "bad stuff"... not all off it of course. Getting out of the hole Bush dug, takes more than a few years and it will only take longer when Congress is in the hands of morons who only have their own interests and that of their masters.. aka donors interests in mind.
    When the recession hit he sure as hell could have blamed Clinton. As it was Clintons bills that caused it.

    Prove how that is a lie.

    Just as Obama should be blaming Clinton now. And those who foreclosed on houses they couldnt afford.
    Last edited by Aberration; 07-07-12 at 06:57 AM.
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