Rep. Joe Walsh stands by accusation Tammy Duckworth politicizes her military service

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Redress said:

Holy irony!

By the way, I was 10 when Vietnam ended.

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so your loogies were spiced with boogers and red Popsicle, and that makes it ok?

Oh, what a devilish child you were !

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DiAnna said:

Just because the vets you knew were not abused by the public does not give you the right to say that such public abuse was a "myth". It wasn't. Vets I knew WERE abused, and I saw some of it with my own eyes.

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Likewise, just because you have some antedotal evidence and saw a film doesn't give you the right to say it was a common occurance.

Yes, the government abused the 'Nam vets, first by drafting them to fight in a war we had no business being in, then exposing them to toxins and ignoring them when they got sick. You better believe the anger of the anti-war protestors was understandable. I was one of them, marching, carrying signs, shaking my fists. And yes, we brought an end to that war.

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Well la de da, so did most young people, including myself.

As for the snide remark about those not living to see their names on the war memorial, there were 58,600 of them. I went to high school with some. You don't hold the high road here. All of us who lived through that war were affected by it, whether we fought in it or not.

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It wasn't meant to be snide and I'm sorry you took it that way.

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AdamT said:

I agree, but OTOH I was alive and actively following the Bush/Clinton election and I have no recollection of this issue being discussed in the mainstream media. In contrast, one could hardly avoid hearing about the Kerry swiftboat claims.

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I don't necessarily disagree that it wasn't nearly as wide spread in the media as the swift boating thing, I was just suggesting that what can be found on the internet is hardly an accurate or reasonable way or judging it. I also think in general it's difficult talking about elections across such a time period. With the rise of prominence of the 24/7 news stations (CNN being the only one in 1992 of any note, and even then it had hardly the viewership it had now due to the prevalence of cable), the prevalence of blogs and internet news sites, cheap and wide spread cameras throughout the population with ease of distribution, and even really the strengthen of talk radio all have had a significant effect on the coverage of political events. I think there's a lot of things that occur today that likely wouldn't have gotten an ounce of the notice that they have currently and in contrast I think there are minor things in the past that, given the current media and technological environment, would've likely caught fire. Granted, that part is mostly speculation based on my opinions and views regarding the difference in eras. To me it's a lot like trying to compare the NFL stats of today to those of even the 1980's in a literal 1:1 type of fashion. However, as noted, my issue was the straight comparison regarding the internet and even television ad's. Hell, when there's 3 MAJOR 24/7 news stations, not to mention a number of less major ones, not to mention 4 "major" broadcast stations along with 2 to 4 more "minor" ones and a load of cable stations that would be massive compared to 1992 numbers....it's not quite as big of a deal getting some ad space as there was in the past.

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Redress said:

Wait, let me see if I understand your position here: this isn't a big deal because other people have acted like assholes too? Really?

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When there aren't so many Libbos that insist that Bush was awol, you might have a valid point.

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apdst said:

When there aren't so many Libbos that insist that Bush was awol, you might have a valid point.

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And apdst with the right wing hack single to left.

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apdst said:

When there aren't so many Libbos that insist that Bush was awol, you might have a valid point.

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Yea it is convenient that the records were "lost" so nothing can be proved.... "lost" when Bush was governor ironically. Any ways, ancient history now... and this Joe Walsh guy is an idiot grade A...

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PeteEU said:

Yea it is convenient that the records were "lost" so nothing can be proved.... "lost" when Bush was governor ironically. Any ways, ancient history now... and this Joe Walsh guy is an idiot grade A...

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The records were, "lost"? What records were, "lost"?

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PeteEU said:

Yea it is convenient that the records were "lost" so nothing can be proved.... "lost" when Bush was governor ironically. Any ways, ancient history now... and this Joe Walsh guy is an idiot grade A...

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Absence of evidence is exactly that, an absence of evidence. Conspiracy crap is also just that, conspiracy crap. Put those two together...

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It matters not what this guy says. He's out come November. He's already sewn his fate there a while ago. I think he's sporting a 28% approval rating or there abouts.