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    Re: Rep. Joe Walsh stands by accusation Tammy Duckworth politicizes her military serv

    Just for the hell of it, I went back and dug up a quote of my referencing the "BetrayUs" add. Here it is:

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    Re: Rep. Joe Walsh stands by accusation Tammy Duckworth politicizes her military serv

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Yea did you actually read it? So what's stopping her from making it the main focus of her campaign?

    Transportation is critical to a strong economy, and to the 8th District. We need a new transportation bill, immediately, to repair and expand our roads and bridges, rail network and the critical hub at O'Hare Airport.
    More Government Spending on supposed "shovel ready jobs" and infrastructure. About 6% of Obama's Stimulus went to "infrastructure projects". 79% of his Green Job Spending went to foreign companies. How'd that work out?

    We also need to invest in our public schools now
    More Government Spending. We spend more on education than ever before and our students are not performing up to standards.

    Down the line her only solution to every problem is more Government Spending. After her party added 5 trillion to the deficit in 4 years it's not wonder why she doesn't want to actually talk about her "solutions" in an open debate.

    And speaking of attacking military service during an election:

    Wesley Clark continues Democrats' attacks on Mccain's heroic service - National Right Side Politics | Examiner.com

    When Schieffer noted Obama has not had wartime experiences, Clark said: “Well, I don’t think riding in a fighter plane and getting shot down is a qualification to be president.

    “McCain was a fighter pilot, who dropped laser-guided missiles from 35,000 feet. He was long gone when they hit. What happened when they [the missiles] get to the ground? He doesn't know. You have to care about the lives of people. McCain never gets into those issues.” (Paul J. Nyden, "Jay Defends Endorsement Of Sen. Obama," The Charleston Gazette, 4/8/08)
    “Republican presidential candidate John McCain’s family background as the son and grandson of admirals has given him a worldview shaped by the military, ‘and he has a hard time thinking beyond that,’ Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Ia., said Friday. ‘I think he’s trapped in that,’ Harkin said in a conference call with Iowa reporters. ‘Everything is looked at from his life experiences, from always having been in the military, and I think that can be pretty dangerous.’” (Jane Norman, “Harkin: McCain Too ‘Military,’” The Des Moines Register, 5/17/08)
    “Sadly, Sen. McCain was not available during those times, and I say that with all due respect to him. … I think that the notion that the members of the Senate who were in the ground forces or who were ashore in Vietnam have a very different view of Vietnam and the cost that you described than John McCain does because he was in isolation essentially for many of those years and did not experience the turmoil here or the challenges that were involved for those of us who served in Vietnam during the Vietnam war.” (Teddy Davis and Molly Hunter, “Dem Guru: McCain Limited By POW Years,” ABC News’ “Political Radar” Blog, blogs.abcnews.com, 6/30/08)

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    Re: Rep. Joe Walsh stands by accusation Tammy Duckworth politicizes her military serv

    Bronson, you realize that the rest of us are talking about the topic, while you are doing everything to divert from the topic? That is kinda like a hint that you are not doing well.
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    Re: Rep. Joe Walsh stands by accusation Tammy Duckworth politicizes her military serv

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Bronson, you realize that the rest of us are talking about the topic, while you are doing everything to divert from the topic? That is kinda like a hint that you are not doing well.
    I called it in post #19.
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    Re: Rep. Joe Walsh stands by accusation Tammy Duckworth politicizes her military serv

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    Rep. Joe Walsh stands by accusation Tammy Duckworth politicizes her military service | The Ticket - Yahoo! News

    There is nothing funnier than a Republican complaining about people "politicizing" military service. Anyone remember when Republicans were lockstep in their "with us or against us" mentality? And if you were against Iraq you were against the troops and whatever vague mission they had that week?
    John Kerry politicized his military service. John F. Kennedy politicized his military service. John McCain politicized his military service. This is standard operating procedure for politicians.
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    Re: Rep. Joe Walsh stands by accusation Tammy Duckworth politicizes her military serv

    Ok im going to jump on a partisan bandwagon here even though im an equal opportunity basher, because of personal observation lately.

    Theres appears to be a whole new crop of Politicians, especially of the far right persuasion a younger crowd that has no military service. like walsh...thats ok..Not everyone has served or can serve. However, for this guy to try and marginalize this lady who gave her legs while hes given NOTHING by lip is unacceptable to me. She should and has every right to run on her service as he has to run as a teaparty privledged non vet.
    This new crop of what I call the privledged brats want to put down or play down military veteran opponents...simply because they " got nuttin" I hope the voters see this guy for what he is....

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    Re: Rep. Joe Walsh stands by accusation Tammy Duckworth politicizes her military serv

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Ok im going to jump on a partisan bandwagon here even though im an equal opportunity basher, because of personal observation lately.

    Theres appears to be a whole new crop of Politicians, especially of the far right persuasion a younger crowd that has no military service. like walsh...thats ok..Not everyone has served or can serve. However, for this guy to try and marginalize this lady who gave her legs while hes given NOTHING by lip is unacceptable to me. She should and has every right to run on her service as he has to run as a teaparty privledged non vet.
    This new crop of what I call the privledged brats want to put down or play down military veteran opponents...simply because they " got nuttin" I hope the voters see this guy for what he is....
    I support Walsh but I agree that this attack on Tammy Duckworth is misguided in the extreme.
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    Re: Rep. Joe Walsh stands by accusation Tammy Duckworth politicizes her military serv

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    I called it in post #19.
    I did it better.
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    Re: Rep. Joe Walsh stands by accusation Tammy Duckworth politicizes her military serv

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Where did I claim I don't trust the actions of a vet? Stop engaging in emotional reasoning and objectification.

    It's laughable that any liberal would claim anyone is insulting veterans after you spat upon vets getting off planes after the Vietnam War....
    That myth was debunked decades ago.

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    Re: Rep. Joe Walsh stands by accusation Tammy Duckworth politicizes her military serv

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    That myth was debunked decades ago.
    There are many first hand accounts from veterans concerning incidents of spitting by members of the SDS. There were many revolutionaries within SDS that supported Mao, Che, and other Marxist heroes. There has been an attempt by some to try and rewrite history and claim these incidents didn't happen. These lies have largely been pushed by a guy named Jerry Lembcke, who tried to white wash Jane Fonda's behavior during the war, as well as writing such literary masterpieces such as "Recapturing Marxism: An Appraisal of Recent Trends in Sociological Theory", and "Capitalist Development and Class Capacities: Marxist Theory and Union Organization"

    Amazon.com: Capitalist Development and Class Capacities: Marxist Theory and Union Organization (Contributions in Labor Studies) (9780313262098): Jerry Lembcke: Books

    Amazon.com: Recapturing Marxism: An Appraisal of Recent Trends in Sociological Theory (9780275926380): Rhonda F. Levine, Jerry Lembcke: Books

    His "spit debunking book" has a whole 2.5 star rating:

    Amazon.com: The Spitting Image: Myth, Memory, and the Legacy of Vietnam (9780814751473): Jerry Lembcke: Books

    It turns out this Lembcke guy was apart of John Kerry's "Veterans Against the War" where most of these veterans it turns out never actually served or saw combat.

    You can read first hand accounts of incidents by vets where they spat on and called baby killers. It's documented in the following book:

    Amazon.com: Homecoming: When the Soldiers Returned from Vietnam (9780399133862): Bob Greene: Books

    You don't really want me to go dig up videos of anti Iraq war protesters burning soldiers in effigy do you?

    Portland Oregon Anarchists Burn Soldier Effigy - YouTube

    This is nothing more than manufactured outrage. Of course you don't want to talk about the effects of your actual policies in an election year, so you have to hysterically try and make an issue out of nothing. There are many incidents beyond spitting and calling soldiers baby killers as well. The families of soldiers that were killed were anonymously called and told that their son "deserved to die".

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